Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

27-10-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch

duniya k tamam ilm Allah k siwa koi nahi nazil kerta na kr sakta ha na he Allah k hukam k elawa koi kuch kr sakta ha
yahan tk k sans bhi nahi ly sakta

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I have read many like these....
Almost many of the different school of thoughts

haan na Allah kar sakta hay.. Aur Allah nay us zamanay main Aap kay interpretiton kay mutabiq Kufar utara tha. aur Allah tala ka yeh kehna bhi ghalat ho giya kay Saleman A.S nay kufar nahi kia. frishton nay kufar nahi... because us zamanay main Frishtay hei kufar lay kar zameen par utrtay thay...

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laqin yahan tu kaha ja raha ha k jado ka asar ho he nahi sakta Allah chahy bi tu nahi....

waisay yeh iss li ay kaha ja raha hay kay Quran main Allah tabrq watala nay khud farmaya kay kay jado gar kabhi kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta hay...chahay jadogar kisi bhi tareeqay say kuchh kar kay dikaha ay..

27-10-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

haan na Allah kar sakta hay.. Aur Allah nay us zamanay main Aap kay interpretiton kay mutabiq Kufar utara tha. aur Allah tala ka yeh kehna bhi ghalat ho giya kay Saleman A.S nay kufar nahi kia. frishton nay kufar nahi... because us zamanay main Frishtay hei kufar lay kar zameen par utrtay thay...

kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya?
kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka?
Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki?

yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

Usman Agar jado main asar hei tu...
Taweez main bhi asar hay..
Bhagwan ki poja karnay main bhi asar hay..

sab cheez main asar hay. because sab cheezain Allah kay haath main....

Aap agar jado main asar mano gay tu sab cheezon main asar manana paray ga... Agar nahi mano gay tu aap apni interpretation ko khud hei jhota sabit kar rahay ho.

Aap ko Agar quran majeed ki ayat ko jhutla kar yeh kehna achha lag raha hay kay Jadoo main Allah nay taqat di hay.. tu theek hay aisay hei mano...
Mujhay koi farq nahi parta ...

But i am still waiting for the answers of above 17 questions....

lakh bar keh chuka hn jado mein , taweiz mein, booton mein asar nahi ha laqin Allah logon ki azmaesh k liye jado k zaryeh logon ka nuksan kerwa sakta ha
booton sy mangny pr kuch bhi ata kr sakta ha
taweiz mein asar nahi laqin logon ki azmaesh k liye tawez k zarzeh kisi ko shifa dy sakta ha

27-10-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch

kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya?
kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka?
Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki?

yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

usman aap Pehlay aap oper walay 17 questions ka answer to dain..

But aap ki saari behis say itna saaf zahir ho raha hay kay.... aap in baton ki sacha sabit karnay ki koshish kar rahay hain...

Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko
Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.

Aur Yeh bhi kay...

Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zada shakhsiyat they,aur un par yahoodiyon nay jado kar diya tha (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)

Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar ju taleem di...

Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay....

Agar aap saari behis is li ay nahi kar rahay tu kis li ay kar rahay hain?
Aur agar aap yeh bat kay li ay behis kar rahay hain tu quran main majeed ki aur ahadees ko quote karain ?

Abh mujhay abhi exams ki study karna hay... will contact you ASAP...

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kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya?
kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka?
Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki?

yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

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There is hell of difference between shetaan and Jadogar...
Jadogar is Human being. Sheetan is not....

Aur sheetan kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi farmaya jaisay ka Allah nay Jadogar kay bray main farmaya hay...

Aur frishton kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi kaha kay. Frishtay Kufar ki taleem dene aa ay thay. balkay Allah nay yeh saaf keh diya kay frishton nay kufar nahi kia... (albaqrah 102)

27-10-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

usman aap Pehlay aap oper walay 17 questions ka answer to dain..

But aap ki saari behis say itna saaf zahir ho raha hay kay.... aap in baton ki sacha sabit karnay ki koshish kar rahay hain...

Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko
Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.

Aur Yeh bhi kay...

Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zara shakhsiyat they, (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)

Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar ju taleem di...

Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay....

Agar aap saari behis is li ay nahi kar rahay tu kis li ay kar rahay hain?
Aur agar aap yeh bat kay li ay behis kar rahay hain tu quran main majeed ki aur ahadees ko quote karain ?

Abh mujhay abhi exams ki study karna hay... will contact you ASAP...

mujhy sach yan jhoot sabit kr k kya lena ha kisi sy namera koi firqa ha na mein koi bohat bari postion pr ha na mere peechy koi mananay waly muraid hain

mujhy jo haq lag raha ha wohi janta hn
ap log jan kr sahi Ahadees ko quran sy takra rahy hain

abhi tu yeh tu ek masla ha or bhi bohat sy aesy masly hain or aesy pata nahi kitni sahi ahadees galat ho jati hain ap k liye
abhi tu apka pata nahi ek or bhi log hain jo azab e qabar ko bhi nahi manty
kyoun k quran mein kahin iska zikar nahi or wo bhi aesy he quran ki kuch aeyat ki apni taraf sy tashreeh kr k sb azab e qabar ki balkh or bhi bohat sy masael ki ahadees galat kr rahy hain or yehi munkareen e ahadees hain

mujhy nahi pata kis ko kya diya ha mujhy yeh pata ha jo Allah ny kaha saf translation ha isski

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

waisay yeh iss li ay kaha ja raha hay kay Quran main Allah tabrq watala nay khud farmaya kay kay jado gar kabhi kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta hay...chahay jadogar kisi bhi tareeqay say kuchh kar kay dikaha ay..

han jado ghar nahi kamyab ho sakta mein bhi manta hn
balkeh yahan tk k shetan b kabhi kisi ko wargalany mein kamyab nahi ho sakta jab tk k Allah na chahy

27-10-2009, 09:18 PM

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There is hell of difference between shetaan and Jadogar...
Jadogar is Human being. Sheetan is not....

Difference ha han laqin dono ko Allah ny paida kiya k nahi?
same aesy he jado mein b bhi Allah k hukam sy nuqsan ho sakta ha or nahi b

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Aur sheetan kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi farmaya jaisay ka Allah nay Jadogar kay bray main farmaya hay...

kyoun nahi farmaya kaha ha sheetan ko k wo kabhi kamyab nahi hoga

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Aur frishton kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi kaha kay. Frishtay Kufar ki taleem dene aa ay thay. balkay Allah nay yeh saaf keh diya kay frishton nay kufar nahi kia... (albaqrah 102)

jee han nahi koofar kiya na farishton ny na he suleman (A.S) ny

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

usman aap Pehlay aap oper walay 17 questions ka answer to dain..

But aap ki saari behis say itna saaf zahir ho raha hay kay.... aap in baton ki sacha sabit karnay ki koshish kar rahay hain...

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Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko
Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.

Allah ho alam ap or jis ny kaha wohi janta ha mein jo keh raha hn wo ap k samny ha

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Aur Yeh bhi kay...

Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zada shakhsiyat they,aur un par yahoodiyon nay jado kar diya tha (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)

jado zada shkhsiyat or jado hony mein bohat faraq ha
jesy pagal insan or pagal pan k dora parny mein
abdi marz or aarzi marz mein faraq ha

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Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar ju taleem di...

Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay....

Allah ny kisi ko kisi cheez ki taqat nahi di Allah ny yeh kaha ha agr mein chahon tu kisi ka nuksan ka hukam dy doon chahy wo kuch bhi kary

Abh mujhay abhi exams ki study karna hay... will contact you ASAP...

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"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty

27-10-2009, 09:25 PM

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"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty

Agar aap kehta ho kay yeh dono frishtay thay tu aap ki yeh baat wrong ho jaati hay...

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jee han nahi koofar kiya na farishton ny na he suleman (A.S) ny

Aap baar baar is ayat ko iss li ay paish kar rahay ho?

kay jadogar kay jado main Allah nay asar rakha hay... AUR JADOGAR KISI ko bina kisi sabab kay physically effect kar sakta hay.. (jo kay jadogar kehta hay, aur jado kanray karnay walay sab kehtay hain. jado ko man nay walay sab logon ka aqeeda hay)

wasif nay pehlay hei is ayat ko shirk say paak bana kar interpret ki hay..

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Originally Posted by BSIT07-01

Aap keh rahay ho keh jado allah ki marzi say kaam karta hay .. woh tu sab kuchh allah ki marzi say hota hay ... iss tarah tu main bhi keh doon keh main ghar main baithay baithay fallan kaam kar sakta hoon ... Lakin agar Allah Chahay tu ho jaye ga aur agar allah na chahy tu nahi ho ga ... Tu kia yeh jadoo ho ga? jee nahi bilkul jado nahi ho ga. yeh Allah nay kia hoga

Kia Jadoogar yeh kehta hay keh Allah Nay chaha tu hoga ? wo tu yeh kehtay hain keh humaray ammal say hoga ...

Agar kehtay ho keh jadoo gar kay amal main asar hay tu phir peeroon kay amal main bhi asar hona chahiay... They also do similar things... don't they?

Unhoon nay rasiyan aur lathiyan phaikein ... Saanp nahi thay woh (might be acting like snakes) ... As far I know they were just moving like snakes ...

Aur next ayat kay end main likha hua hay "Un kay jhotay shobdoon ko"

Any correction will be accepted ...

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No, It could be interpreted like that ...

Aik jadoogar nay kaha keh yeh banda iss din mar jaye ga ...

Aur Allah nay bhi uss banday kay marnay ka hukm day dia ho ...

Tu kia Allah us jadoogar ko jhoota karnay kay liay apna hukm change kar dain ?

Banda maray ga tu Allah kay hi hukm say But jadoogar kahay ga keh us ki waja say hua hay, Agar woh apnay Amal na karta tu banda na marta ...

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Difference ha han laqin dono ko Allah ny paida kiya k nahi?
same aesy he jado mein b bhi Allah k hukam sy nuqsan ho sakta ha or nahi b

jab difference hay tu phir insan main aur jadogar main kia difference hay?

aap jo sheetan aur insan ki characteristics ka comparison kar rahay ho..

Aalh nay Frishton ko bhi paida kia hay... kia un kay characteristics insaan ki trah hain?jab nahi hain tu sheetan ko beech main lanay ka koi jawaz hei nahi banata hay mere bhai...

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