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Old 25-10-2009, 02:20 PM   #11
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Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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yeh kahan likha ha quran mein jado ghar ka jado kisi ko nuksan nahi dy sakta...?
jab Allah nay keh diya hay kay jadogar kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta tu yeh baat khudbakhud aap ko pata chal jani chahiay kay wo kisi ko apnay jado mantar say nuqsaan bhi nahi pohuncha sakta...
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apny mujhy kaha tha wsdin aj mein apko kehta hn sary paisy mein deta hn mujhy trick kr k deikhow itnay sare azdahy mujhy nikal kr deikhow...

trick sy kisi isan ko 2 hison mein kat kr phir join kr k deikhow joaw sb tricks krny waly ly aow mein bhi deikhna chahta hn wo trick kaisa ha phir mein yeh bhi deikhon trick kaise kiya wsny
yeh sab aap kay mutabiq ho jata hay.. aap khud kar kay dikhao na... mere zima kiyon laga rahay ho... main nay tu nahi kaha kay hota hay aisa... aur na hei quran main kaha giya hay kay azdhay thay.. quran main tu baar baar kaha giya hay kay yeh jadogar ka fareeb tha. nahi man na tu na mano. mujhay is say koi farq nahi parta... abh mujhay mazeed quran ki ayat qoute karnay ki zarorat nahi hay.. aap in ko maan hei nahi rahay tu aur ayat ko tu pata nahi kia kia kaho gay..

sirf yeh proov dainay kay li ay kay... Firon kay Kafir jaodgaron nay.. Azdaha bana li ay thay. aur Allah ka yeh kehna ghalat hay ..


Kay firon kay jadogaron nay fareeb (dhoka diya kia tha)

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"kya yeh jado ha or jado ghar kamyab nahi ho sakta"

Yeh mosa A.S kay mojza kay baray main hay.. kay kia yeh Haq Jado hay?
 
Old 25-10-2009, 02:28 PM   #12
usman_latif_ch
Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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yeh sab aap kay mutabiq ho jata hay.. aap khud kar kay dikhao na... mere zima kiyon laga rahay ho... main nay tu nahi kaha kay hota hay aisa... aur na hei quran main kaha giya hay kay azdhay thay.. quran main tu baar baar kaha giya hay kay yeh jadogar ka fareeb tha. nahi man na tu na mano. mujhay is say koi farq nahi parta... abh mujhay mazeed quran ki ayat qoute karnay ki zarorat nahi hay.. aap in ko maan hei nahi rahay tu aur ayat ko tu pata nahi kia kia kaho gay..

sirf yeh proov dainay kay li ay kay... Firon kay Kafir jaodgaron nay.. Azdaha bana li ay thay. aur Allah ka yeh kehna ghalat hay ..


Kay firon kay jadogaron nay fareeb (dhoka diya kia tha)
apny kaha na jado nahi hota trick(dhokha) hota ha tu mein jado nahi trick ki he bat kr raha hn trick kr k deikhow na phir mein sabit kronga yeh trick nahi ha nazar ka dhokha nahi ha...

tum trick sy mere samny sanp banana phir batana kaise banaye hain kyoun k trick hoga tu wska koi tareeqa bhi hoga na wo mujhy batana ok
ap itnay sare samp ek sath apni pocket mein chupa lena
yan trick sy kisi ko half kr k deikhna yeh tricks tu hoty hain na magic shows mein tu kr k deikhna mein phir sabit karon ga trick nahi ha yeh...
 
Old 25-10-2009, 02:52 PM   #13
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Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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apny kaha na jado nahi hota trick(dhokha) hota ha tu mein jado nahi trick ki he bat kr raha hn trick kr k deikhow na phir mein sabit kronga yeh trick nahi ha nazar ka dhokha nahi ha...

tum trick sy mere samny sanp banana phir batana kaise banaye hain kyoun k trick hoga tu wska koi tareeqa bhi hoga na wo mujhy batana ok
ap itnay sare samp ek sath apni pocket mein chupa lena
yan trick sy kisi ko half kr k deikhna yeh tricks tu hoty hain na magic shows mein tu kr k deikhna mein phir sabit karon ga trick nahi ha yeh...
trick kar kay un say pocho na jo trick kartay hain..

Yeh main nay nahi kaha. Quran aur Allah kay rasool SAW nay kaha.. sahaba karam R.A nay kaha kay jado Haq nahi hay Dhoka hay.. tu un say ja kar karwao na tricks mere zima kiyon lag rahay ho aap?
Un say kaho kay Allah nay kiyon kaha hay jado sirf jadogar ka fareeb hay aur kuch bhi nahi hay...
 
Old 25-10-2009, 03:01 PM   #14
usman_latif_ch
Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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trick kar kay un say pocho na jo trick kartay hain..

Yeh main nay nahi kaha. Quran aur Allah kay rasool SAW nay kaha.. sahaba karam R.A nay kaha kay jado Haq nahi hay Dhoka hay.. tu un say ja kar karwao na tricks mere zima kiyon lag rahay ho aap?
Allah ny nahi kaha wo trick ha Allah tu keh raha ha k jado ghar ka jado nuksan kr sakta ha agr mein chahon



Apny he wsko kaha ha wo trick ha or kuch bhi nahi
 
Old 25-10-2009, 03:13 PM   #15
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Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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apny mujhy kaha tha wsdin aj mein apko kehta hn sary paisy mein deta hn mujhy trick kr k deikhow itnay sare azdahy mujhy nikal kr deikhow...

trick sy kisi isan ko 2 hison mein kat kr phir join kr k deikhow joaw sb tricks krny waly ly aow mein bhi deikhna chahta hn wo trick kaisa ha phir mein yeh bhi deikhon trick kaise kiya wsny
ok ji Nikalo Paisay ... hahaha

I should not post these videos in Islam Section ...but still posting for you ...

See at 3:20 ....







Last edited by BSIT07-01; 25-10-2009 at 04:03 PM. Reason: Quote added !
 
Old 25-10-2009, 03:13 PM   #16
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Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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Allah ny nahi kaha wo trick ha Allah tu keh raha ha k jado ghar ka jado nuksan kr sakta ha agr mein chahon



Apny he wsko kaha ha wo trick ha or kuch bhi nahi
Jee trick hay means dhoka hay...



Jhota shobada... read what quran say... meri start main di gai ayat jhooti lagti hay tu...
 
Old 25-10-2009, 05:29 PM   #17
usman_latif_ch
Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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ok ji Nikalo Paisay ... hahaha

I should not post these videos in Islam Section ...but still posting for you ...

See at 3:20 ....
aesi videos mein jado kr k tu mein bhi deikha sakta hn ( jado tricks nahi) tu kya mujhy bhi paisy do gy ...

All of the above videos are being performed through some special arrangments and thats are tricks every one know

and i believe too that tricks can be done but
their is a lot difference b/w trick and magic through some knowledge

ap k mutabiq jado sirf trick ha laqin mein yeh kehta hn jado ghar jado kr sakta ha without these tricky arrangments laqin ws ka jado Allah ki merzi k baghir asar nahi kerta laqin agar Allah chahy tu asar kr bhi sakta ha

yehi tu mein ap sy pochna chahta hn k agr firoan ny sirf dhokha diya tha tu kya Hazrat Musa (A.S) bhi ws k tricks sy dhokha kha gye?

agar wo snacks sirf nazar ka dhokha tha tu Moosa (A.S) k assa sy bany azdahy ny kis cheez ko nigla, agar wo sb azdahy nazar ka dhokha thy tu moosa (A.S) kyoun dary or Allah ny un k assa ko azdaha bana kr wo dhokhay walu snaks ko kyoun nigla...

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Jee trick hay means dhoka hay...



Jhota shobada... read what quran say... meri start main di gai ayat jhooti lagti hay tu...
yani Allah chahy dhokha nuqsan kr sakta ha is it?
 
Old 25-10-2009, 05:41 PM   #18
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Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

Pehli baat ...

Aap nay kaha Keh Insaan ko kaat kar doobara Milanay wala Jado dikhao ... us ki asliyat aap nay daikh li ...

doosri baat ...

Aap keh rahay ho keh jado allah ki marzi say kaam karta hay .. woh tu sab kuchh allah ki marzi say hota hay ... iss tarah tu main bhi keh doon keh main ghar main baithay baithay fallan kaam kar sakta hoon ... Lakin agar Allah Chahay tu ho jaye ga aur agar allah na chahy tu nahi ho ga ... Tu kia yeh jadoo ho ga?

Kia Jadoogar yeh kehta hay keh Allah Nay chaha tu hoga ? wo tu yeh kehtay hain keh humaray ammal say hoga ...

Agar kehtay ho keh jadoo gar kay amal main asar hay tu phir peeroon kay amal main bhi asar hona chahiay... They also do similar things... don't they?




Unhoon nay rasiyan aur lathiyan phaikein ... Saanp nahi thay woh (might be acting like snakes) ... As far I know they were just moving like snakes ...

Aur next ayat kay end main likha hua hay "Un kay jhotay shobdoon ko"

Any correction will be accepted ...


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yani Allah chahy dhokha nuqsan kr sakta ha is it?
No, It could be interpreted like that ...

Aik jadoogar nay kaha keh yeh banda iss din mar jaye ga ...

Aur Allah nay bhi uss banday kay marnay ka hukm day dia ho ...

Tu kia Allah us jadoogar ko jhoota karnay kay liay apna hukm change kar dain ?

Banda maray ga tu Allah kay hi hukm say But jadoogar kahay ga keh us ki waja say hua hay, Agar woh apnay Amal na karta tu banda na marta ...
 
Old 25-10-2009, 07:08 PM   #19
usman_latif_ch
Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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Pehli baat ...

Aap nay kaha Keh Insaan ko kaat kar doobara Milanay wala Jado dikhao ... us ki asliyat aap nay daikh li ...
yeh tu trick tha na mein jado ki bat kr raha hn yeh tu apny khud he proov kr diya trick ha laqin jado aesa nahi hota wska physical effect hota ha

Surat Al Baqra Aeyat no 102

"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty

kya cheez thi jo mian biwi mein tafarqa dalti yeh kis k bare mein kaha gaya ha trick k bary mein ?

kaise mantr thy jo unko nuqsan he ponchty thy faida nahi......

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doosri baat ...

Aap keh rahay ho keh jado allah ki marzi say kaam karta hay .. woh tu sab kuchh allah ki marzi say hota hay ... iss tarah tu main bhi keh doon keh main ghar main baithay baithay fallan kaam kar sakta hoon ... Lakin agar Allah Chahay tu ho jaye ga aur agar allah na chahy tu nahi ho ga ... Tu kia yeh jadoo ho ga?
ap sy pochon ga kya yeh trick hoga?
(nahi na jado na trick)

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Kia Jadoogar yeh kehta hay keh Allah Nay chaha tu hoga ? wo tu yeh kehtay hain keh humaray ammal say hoga ...

Agar kehtay ho keh jadoo gar kay amal main asar hay tu phir peeroon kay amal main bhi asar hona chahiay... They also do similar things... don't they?
kya ap khana khany sy pehly , kisi ko koi bat kerny sy pehly yeh kehty ho k agar allah chahy tu yeh kam hoga ya nahi tu kya ap shirk kerty ho?


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Unhoon nay rasiyan aur lathiyan phaikein ... Saanp nahi thay woh (might be acting like snakes) ... As far I know they were just moving like snakes ...

Aur next ayat kay end main likha hua hay "Un kay jhotay shobdoon ko"

Any correction will be accepted ...
han unhon ny rasiyan phanki or they were acting like snaks but yeh tu wahan hwa na mein ny ap sy pocha kya nabi ki nazar ws trick sy dhokha kha gai or dar gai kya?




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No, It could be interpreted like that ...

Aik jadoogar nay kaha keh yeh banda iss din mar jaye ga ...

Aur Allah nay bhi uss banday kay marnay ka hukm day dia ho ...

Tu kia Allah us jadoogar ko jhoota karnay kay liay apna hukm change kar dain ?

Banda maray ga tu Allah kay hi hukm say But jadoogar kahay ga keh us ki waja say hua hay, Agar woh apnay Amal na karta tu banda na marta
jado ghar ny kaha banda mar jye ga tu kya allah logon ki azmesh k liye wski bat ko sach nahi ke sakta?

jesy hindu buton sy mangty hain magr deta tu allah he ha na tu kya wo bhookhy marty hain wo tu apny bhagwanon sy mangty hain tu kya unko nahi milta kuch, milta ha na or deta tu allah he ha na

yehi tu bat ha na interpretation ka he tu sara masla ha quran ki interpretation youn nahi ho sakti na aesy tu hr koi apni he kary ga na
ok apny yeh interpretation ki ha mein yeh kerta hn faisla kn kary ga sahi ha yan galay
yaqeenan sahi ahadees he karain gy or apny sahi ahadees ko he apni interpretation sy takra kr galat kr diya tu ab phir ab....?(larai he larai)

jadu (according to you dhokha) kisi ko nuqsan nahi poncha sakta magar siwaye iss k Allah he ws nuqsan ka hukam dy dye.
 
Old 26-10-2009, 12:12 AM   #20
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Default Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

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han unhon ny rasiyan phanki or they were acting like snaks but yeh tu wahan hwa na mein ny ap sy pocha kya nabi ki nazar ws trick sy dhokha kha gai or dar gai kya?
Yeh baat aap Allah say pocho kay Allah nay kiyon kaha aisa... kay jadoo is k siwa kuch nahi sirf yehi kay yeh jadogar ka fareeb hay... Yeh quran main kaafi baar aya hay...
Is kay ilawa Allah nay yeh nahi bataya kay Allah kay nabi ko dhoka ho giya tha....
yeh tu aap khud say hei keh rahay ho ...
 
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