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08-11-2009, 11:03 PM
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 Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
mein tu apko haqeeqat bata raha hn jo mere mutabiq sahi ha wo bata raha hn Mein ny yeh nahi kaha k Boot dety hain mein ny kaha ha boot kya , jado ghar ap , or mein kuch bhi nahi kr sakty jab tk allah na chahy or Allah kafir/mushrik logon ko booton sy deta ha matalb yeh ha mera k wo Allah ko nahi manty laqin booton sy mangty hain laqin phir bhi Allah unko deta ha bhookha tu nahi marta na
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Sirf isliaye kay aap jado kay asar ko mann kar Muhammad SAW par jado ka asar sabit karna chah rahay ho..
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#12
08-11-2009, 11:29 PM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
Tu button say mangna/ ya yeh baat manana kufar aur shirk hay kay butt Bhook mitatay hain... Yeh baat bhi mannna kufar aur shirk hay jadogar kay jadoo say nafa nuqsaan hota hay.. Jaisay kay quran majeed aur hadees main hay... See your videos is main hay; main nay nahi kaha. Yeh in molana nay apni videos main khud bola hay...jo kay sach hay Quran majeed main tu jado kay baaray main yeh kay parh loo. khud..  Waisay chhotay text main bhi likha huya nazar aa raha hay... bara aur red karnay ki koi zarorat nahi hay.. aur apni posts edit kar nay dobara new content add karnay ki zarorat nahi hay. next post kar diya karain.. 
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08-11-2009, 11:36 PM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
mein tu ilzam nahi laga raha ap sy poch raha hn ap unko mushrik bana rahy ho tu poch raha h k ap k nazdeeeq wo mushrik thay yan unko quran nahi ata tha jo apko aj zada aa gaya ha kyoun k yeh ahadees tu unhon ny he kahi hain mein ny yan kisi or ny apny pass sy nahi likhi or hazaroon mohadeesn ny tahqeeq bhi ki ha inki sanad bilkul sahi ha so isska matlab ha apki tashreeh shirk rakhti ha na Allah ka quran na yeh Sahi ahadees ---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ---------- Quote:
 Allah ny jado k bare mein aeyat mein yeh kaha ha booton k bare mein kahin nahi kaha k agar mein chahon tu unko ikhteyar dy don k wo ata kr dayn
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08-11-2009, 11:43 PM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... yahan Allah keh raha ha or phanki unhon ny apni rasiyan or phir kya moosa (A.S) ko rasiyan sanp nazar any lag gye kya Allah jhoot bol raha ha k unhon ny apni rasiyan phanki or wo sanp ban gye phir Allah ny mosa (A.S) k "assa" sy sare sanp nigalwa liye rasiyan sanp kaise bani...? Yeh tu Allah khud keh raha ha k phanki unhon ny apni rasiyan
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08-11-2009, 11:57 PM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
aap quran majeed ki tu baat kar hei nahi raahay hain.. bas imam imaam lagai hoi hay..kay wo yeh thay wo thay, agar unhon nay quran kay khilaf khud likha hay tu wo mushriq hain. Because Jo Allah ki kitab ko jhutlata hay wo muslim nahi ho sakta. but yeh bhi hay kay yeh unhon nay nahi likha ho ga, even kay aap nay Ayesha R.A ko bhi Yeh saabit kar diya hay kay wo Bhi yeh manti thei kay.. Mindonillah (Allah kay siwa)main Jadogar aur jaddo nahi aata... Abh aap in ayat ki apni trah say tashreeh kar kay bata ain... Hadees ko filwaqt aik traf rakhain . because aap kehtay hain kay aap quran ko pehalay mantay hain then Hadees ko...      Quote:
Agar Allah kahay, kay jado say koi faida nahi hota tu yeh tu musalmano ko yeh manana Theek rahay ga kay Jadoo (Kufriya kalemat say faida nuqsan hota hay) Tu kia Jado Allah kay siwa nahi hay? ya Allah hay? Quote:
aur wo jadogar Saanp bananay main kamiyab ho gay thay... Halankay ye Allah ki Sifat hay kay wo kisi cheez main Rooh dal day. Oper aap keh rahay hain kay insan aik makhi bhi nahi bana saktay aur idhar keh rahay hain kay Saanp bana liaye they ---------- Post added at 11:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:46 PM ---------- Quote:
Un ko mushrik isi li ay kaha hay na kay wo Shirk kartay hain.. Aisay thori keh diya hay kay wo mushrik hay.. ya mushrik ki koi aur definition hay ? Wo jado kar kay Allah ka shreek hei Thehratay hain tu isili ay tu kaha huya hay kay shirk aur kufar hay... You again added more text in your post.. you must reply. instead of editing old replied thread..
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09-11-2009, 12:11 AM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Allah tallah keh raha ha k Allah k elawa koi kisi ko kuch nahi keh sakta or jo yeh manta ha k Allah k elawa koi kuch ker sakta ha tu wo zalimon mein sy ha or yehi mera manna ha k ap yan mein bhi kuch nahi ker sakty kisi ka nuqsan nahi ker sakty magar Allah chahy tu yahan Allah keh raha ha or phanki unhon ny apni rasiyan or phir kya moosa (A.S) ko rasiyan sanp nazar any lag gye kya Allah jhoot bol raha ha k unhon ny apni rasiyan phanki or wo sanp ban gye phir Allah ny mosa (A.S) k "assa" sy sare sanp nigalwa liye rasiyan sanp kaise bani...? Yeh tu Allah khud keh raha ha k phanki unhon ny apni rasiyan or agar unhon ny trick sy kahin sanp chupaye thy jesa ap kehty ho tu ap yeh sabit kr rahy ho k Allah k nabi dhokha kha gye mushrikon sy jo un ko pata nahi chala Allah shirk ko kabhi maf nahi kery ga issi liye Allah ny booton or jado kerny walon ko kaha ha kyoun k wo yeh sabit kr rahy hoty hain k sb kuch hm ny kiya ha jab keh wo tu ek makhi ko bhi nuqsan pohchny ki taqat nahi rakhty magar Allah unki azmayeh k liye k yeh mujh pr iman laty hain yan apni jhooti taqat pr allah un k jado sy kisi ka nuqsan kr sakta ha Allah tallah jado ghar ko nakam kr k bataty hain k wo kabhi kamyab nahi ho sakta kyoun k Asal taqat tu allah ki ha wo tu asal mein kuch kr he nahi sakta jab k sb allah he kerta ha jab unhon ny apni rasiyan phanki tu mosa (A.S) ko wo laga jesy wo dhore rahi hain tu unhon ny khof mehsoof kiya tu allah ny kaha mat daro or phanko apna asa ...... ---------- Post added at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:08 AM ---------- Quote:
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09-11-2009, 12:24 AM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
 That was just a "Jhota Shoabda"... |
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09-11-2009, 12:48 AM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
 ) say bhi kuch nahi kar saktay.aur jo yeh manta hay kay kar saktay hain wo zalim hain..but aap ki sab behis kiyon...... Quote:
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jaisa ke jado ke qaeleen ka imaan he...  -=-------------------------==--------------------------------===-----------------------------=====-------------------- Tamnat Bilkhair... 
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09-11-2009, 12:55 AM
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| Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
so sabit hwa jado ghar agar jhoota shobda kery tu ws sy kisi ko bhi yeh mehsoos ho sakta ha k wo rasiyan dhore rahi hain yani hain wo asal mein rasiyan or insan ho or chahy koi Nabi bhi ko lag sakta ha k wo rasiyan dhore rahi hain or wo iss wajha sy dar bhi saktay hain is it....? koi galti tu nahi hwi na apki interpretation smjhny mein...?
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09-11-2009, 12:59 AM
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 Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar Ho jata hay... Quote:
Jaisay..yeh wali ayat... Dosari baat jab aap is baat say 100% agree kar rahay ho, kay jadogar ka jado aik jhota shobda hota hay,tu is ayat ko aap jadogar kay jado main asar manna nay kayliye laga hei nahi sakti,But i do not know aapki aisi interpretation kiyon he keh.... jadgar apnay kufria kalemat say kisi ko takleef dene ka ikhtiyar rakhta hay, kisi kay dil main khoof dalnay ka ikhtiyar rakhata hay. aur us jadogar ko yeh ikhtyar Allah nay as a gift diya huya hay. I can show you a Rope like a snake. Jadogar tu door ki baat.. I myself can do it ... but hadees kay mutabiq yeh karna bhi haram hay. Magic say tu jism bhi kaat sakta hay jadogar. aap ko videos dikhai tu hay... Quote:
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