usman_latif_ch

laqin yahan tu kaha ja raha ha k jado ka asar ho he nahi sakta Allah chahy bi tu nahi....

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.BZU.

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch duniya k tamam ilm Allah k siwa koi nahi nazil kerta na kr sakta ha na he Allah k hukam k elawa koi kuch kr sakta ha yahan tk k sans bhi nahi ly sakta ---------- Post added at 07:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 PM ---------- I have read many like these.... Almost many of the different school of thoughts

haan na Allah kar sakta hay.. Aur Allah nay us zamanay main Aap kay interpretiton kay mutabiq Kufar utara tha. aur Allah tala ka yeh kehna bhi ghalat ho giya kay Saleman A.S nay kufar nahi kia. frishton nay kufar nahi... because us zamanay main Frishtay hei kufar lay kar zameen par utrtay thay...

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laqin yahan tu kaha ja raha ha k jado ka asar ho he nahi sakta Allah chahy bi tu nahi....

waisay yeh iss li ay kaha ja raha hay kay Quran main Allah tabrq watala nay khud farmaya kay kay jado gar kabhi kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta hay...chahay jadogar kisi bhi tareeqay say kuchh kar kay dikaha ay..

usman_latif_ch

han bilkul aesy he jesy hindo apny khudaon k bary mein kehty hain, perr sb kehty hain yeh sb mein ny kiya agar wo kisi ko keh dayn k tumhare ghar beta hoga tu agar Allah k hukam sy ho jye tu wo b yehi kehty hain or Allah aesy he logon ki azmaesh kerta ha un jhoton k bat ko sach kr k

.BZU.

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch laqin yahan tu kaha ja raha ha k jado ka asar ho he nahi sakta Allah chahy bi tu nahi.... ---------- Post added at 07:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 PM ----------

Usman Agar jado main asar hei tu...
Taweez main bhi asar hay..
Bhagwan ki poja karnay main bhi asar hay..

sab cheez main asar hay. because sab cheezain Allah kay haath main....

Aap agar jado main asar mano gay tu sab cheezon main asar manana paray ga... Agar nahi mano gay tu aap apni interpretation ko khud hei jhota sabit kar rahay ho.

Aap ko Agar quran majeed ki ayat ko jhutla kar yeh kehna achha lag raha hay kay Jadoo main Allah nay taqat di hay.. tu theek hay aisay hei mano...
Mujhay koi farq nahi parta ...

But i am still waiting for the answers of above 17 questions....

usman_latif_ch

kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya?
kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka?
Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki?

yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

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lakh bar keh chuka hn jado mein , taweiz mein, booton mein asar nahi ha laqin Allah logon ki azmaesh k liye jado k zaryeh logon ka nuksan kerwa sakta ha
booton sy mangny pr kuch bhi ata kr sakta ha
taweiz mein asar nahi laqin logon ki azmaesh k liye tawez k zarzeh kisi ko shifa dy sakta ha

.BZU.

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya? kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka? Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki? yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

usman aap Pehlay aap oper walay 17 questions ka answer to dain..


But aap ki saari behis say itna saaf zahir ho raha hay kay.... aap in baton ki sacha sabit karnay ki koshish kar rahay hain...

Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko
Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.

Aur Yeh bhi kay...

Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zada shakhsiyat they,aur un par yahoodiyon nay jado kar diya tha (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)

Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar ju taleem di...

Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay....

• Agar aap saari behis is li ay nahi kar rahay tu kis li ay kar rahay hain?
• Aur agar aap yeh bat kay li ay behis kar rahay hain tu quran main majeed ki aur ahadees ko quote karain ?

Abh mujhay abhi exams ki study karna hay... will contact you ASAP...


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There is hell of difference between shetaan and Jadogar...
Jadogar is Human being. Sheetan is not....

Aur sheetan kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi farmaya jaisay ka Allah nay Jadogar kay bray main farmaya hay...

Aur frishton kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi kaha kay. Frishtay Kufar ki taleem dene aa ay thay. balkay Allah nay yeh saaf keh diya kay frishton nay kufar nahi kia... (albaqrah 102)

usman_latif_ch

mera yeh semester kafi mushkil ha mein zara thora papers sy farig ho jaon phir apko ap he k 17 sawalon ka jawab donga or kooshish jesy apny khud swal banaye hain or jawab diye hain mein bhi aesy he ap k jawab dnga or sawal bana kr donga

Magar bat phir b wohi reh jye gi ap apni soch k mutabiq quran k interpretation kero mein apni k mutabiq laqin yeh larai jari rahy gi jab tk ahadees ko consult na kero but apny tu sahi ahadess ko he quran sy takra diya ha tu ab kerty raho larai apni apni interpretation pr

BSIT07-01

You read books like that but not that :D
Just read that book once ...hahaha

usman_latif_ch

mujhy sach yan jhoot sabit kr k kya lena ha kisi sy namera koi firqa ha na mein koi bohat bari postion pr ha na mere peechy koi mananay waly muraid hain

mujhy jo haq lag raha ha wohi janta hn
ap log jan kr sahi Ahadees ko quran sy takra rahy hain

abhi tu yeh tu ek masla ha or bhi bohat sy aesy masly hain or aesy pata nahi kitni sahi ahadees galat ho jati hain ap k liye
abhi tu apka pata nahi ek or bhi log hain jo azab e qabar ko bhi nahi manty
kyoun k quran mein kahin iska zikar nahi or wo bhi aesy he quran ki kuch aeyat ki apni taraf sy tashreeh kr k sb azab e qabar ki balkh or bhi bohat sy masael ki ahadees galat kr rahy hain or yehi munkareen e ahadees hain

mujhy nahi pata kis ko kya diya ha mujhy yeh pata ha jo Allah ny kaha saf translation ha isski



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han jado ghar nahi kamyab ho sakta mein bhi manta hn
balkeh yahan tk k shetan b kabhi kisi ko wargalany mein kamyab nahi ho sakta jab tk k Allah na chahy

.BZU.

Aap tu quran majeed ko hei quran majeed say takra rhay ho.. Surah baqrah Ayat 102 porri parho..

Aap udhar yeh mantay ho kay Frishton nay kufar nahi kia. aur udhar mantay ho kay frishtay zameen par aa kay Loogn ko jado sikhatay thay.. baap ray.....

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Aap un 17 questions ko chhoro wo tu aap nay itnay din ho gay hain . di ay hei nahi ..shyad 17 questions ziyda mushkil ho gai hain..

aap chalo yeh batain sabit kar kay dikhao.

jis kay liye aap itnay din say mere say behis kar rahay hain...

1. Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko ; Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.
2. Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zada shakhsiyat they,aur un par yahoodiyon nay jado kar diya tha (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)
3. Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar aur jado ki taleem di... (Jado kufar hey , aur frishton ka jado sikhana bhi kufar hay. means frishton nay bhi kufar kia)
   
4. Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay.... (jabkay, Bhagwan, tawez, etc waghera waghera ko yeh taqat nahi di)
   

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waisay in Questions kay Answer main nay khud nahi di ay hain...
takay aap etraaz na karo kay question poch kay answer khud hei day di ay hain..

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Originally Posted by Raheel Asalam-o-Alaikum to all here, Mene yeh poora thread read kiya hay lekin me ap dono (BZU, USMAN) ka moqaf nahi samajh paya will u please explain k app ka moqaf kiya hay is behes ka ? takay muje bhi samajh me aye ke kiya sahi hay or kiya galat. Regards

hmmm... aap nay agar is thread ka title parha ho tu shyad aap ko baat maloom ho ja ay ... kay mera kia moqaf hay...

waisay usman ka moqaf Opper jo main nay likha hay wohi hay...