usman_latif_ch

kaha na wsko choro jo mein ny likha ha issko perho or bataow kya galti ha

Surat Al Baqra Aeyat no 102

"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty"

.BZU.

abh tu quran ka translate aap apni marzi say kar rahay ho na.. aur kehtay mujhay ho...

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Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy

Wohi baat tu hay na kay jado say kisi ka kuch bhi nahi bigaar saktay ... Allah ke hukum kay bagheer..

Waisay Allah khud aisa hukum day ga kiyon. kay wo kisi ka kuch begaar sakain?? because Allah nay kaha jo hay kay jadogar kabhi kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta...

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faraz kero agr koi kisi ko qatal kerny ata ha tu kya wo allah k hukam k elawa kisi ko qatal kr sakta ha nahi kabhi nahi magar agar allah he chahta ho k wsny qatal hona ha iss terhan tu wo zaroor kamyab ho jye ga

Yeh qatil amnay samnay aa kar qatal karta hay..
Yeh nahi kay apnay ghar baithay jado kar kay qatal karta hay...

usman_latif_ch

mein ny qatil ki misal ws k ikhteyar ki wajh sy di ha k ws k pass ikhteyar kahan sy aeya k wo kisi ko qatal kr ly allah k merzi k elawa nahi na kr sakta k kr sakta ha khud sy allah ki merzi k elawa bhi...?

acha mein ny apni merzi sy ki ha chalo ap same issi line ki translation kero...deikhta hn ap kya kerty ho

yeh lo apki translation faraq bataow

.BZU.

yeh translation meri hei to qoute kar rahay hain aap...

waisay... main nay is ayat kay part ki baat nahi ki. balkay is ki part ki baat ki hay . kay aap nay aur Alama hazarat nay apni marzi say ki hay...

let me qoute again..

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aap nay tarjama aisa hei kia.. bilkul jaisay kay in molana sahab nay kia.... Acha abh khud soochoo.... let me explain..: Usi ooper wali ayat main daikho... aap kehtay ho kay main nay apni marzi ka translation kia hay.... But apnay in allama ka Freeb daikh lo... Jinho nay aik hei ayat main aik hei lafaz kay 2 meaning nikalay hain.... Oper tu likh dia kay Wama,. means Aur Nahi... But Usi ayat kay anadr aglay line main likh dia kay, Wama means Pechay lag gay us ilam kay... Yahan par kiyon nahi kaha kay? Nahi nazil kia giya 2 farishton haroot maroot par? aur phir nechay ja kar dobar yehi keh diya ... Wama means nahi ... main nay highlight kia hay parh lain translate meri marzi ka bhi aur apni marzi ka bhi... ================

usman_latif_ch

han yehi tu mein keh raha hn jo translation mein ny yahan likhi ha or jo apny ki ha dono mein kya faraq ha...?

Allama ko beech mein bar bar kyoun ly ati hain jye jahanum mein mujhy kya ws sy meri bat karain meri or apki translation mein kya faraq ha...yeh batayn bas

.BZU.

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Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty"

aap pichali is ayat ko pora nahi parh rahay ho. pechay yeh likha hay kay

Loog un cheezon kay pechay lag gay jo sheetan sekhatay thay

Sleman A.S nay kufar nahi nahi. balkay un sheetano nay kufar kia...jo logon ko jado sikhatay thay...

.. abh agay aap ki baat lay lete hain...


Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero'

yahan tak tu aap theek ho...

us kay bad aap yeh kiyon kehtay ho kay Is ka yeh matlab hay kay Loog in say jado seekhtay thay...

Jabkay pehlay Allah nay iss baat ki daleel di kay Na hei farishton par jado nazil hua aur na hei frishton nay jado sikhaya...
Aur Allah nay yeh bhi kaha :

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Loog un cheezon kay pechay lag gay jo sheetan sekhatay thay

Tu yahan yeh matlab banta hay kay loog sheetano ki baat martay thay. Frishton ki nahi...

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garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty"

Jab jado nazil hei nahi huya tu aap is trah translate kiyon kar rahay ho kay. Frishtay jado sikhatay thay..

Yeh kiyon nahi kehtay kay Sheetan Jado sikhatay thay.. because pechay Allah nay ye bhi kaha hay kay Sheetano nay kufar kia... aur Allah nay Apnay frishton ki gurentee bhi di kay yeh sirf haq sekhatay thay aur kehtay thay kay buray kamo main na paro. yeh tumhain koi faida nahi dain gay...