Shirk ki Aqsaam (Quran o Hadees ki nazar mein). Types of Shirk according to quran and sahee hadit

25-10-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

Hmmm..
Phir tu is baat ko bhi maan lo na kay Tawwez jo marzi karna chahay kar sakta hay... Kiyon kay us main Allah paak ki marzi ho sakti hay... Quran paak bhi galay main lataka do wo bhi sab kuch kar sakta hay... Buton ki poja karna bhi start kar do. because us main bhi Allah ki marzi ho sakti hay.
Murda peer ki kabar par jao tu wo bhi jo kuch marzi kar sakta hay...

Sorah taha ayat 69. kay mutabiq....
Last week meri aik alaama sahab say baat ho rahi thei jo kay kehtay thay kay jado main asar hay..

Unhon nay tu na aozbillah Jadogar ko itni taqat day di thei..
Un kay mutabiq. Allah tala nay jadogar ko itni taqat day di thei kay us nay firoon kay darbar main lakri/ rasiyon main rooh phonk di thei. aur na aozillah us mai jaan daal di thei...
Mujhay yeh samjh nahi aa e kay jadogar nay aik bejaan cheez main Rooh phoonk kar Allah tala kay barabar makaam hasil kar lia. phir bhi ap kehtay ho kay wo kamiyab nahi huya tha... (Jab kay mere ilam kay mutabiq Insano main sirf Essa A.S ka mojza tha kay wo murda ko zinda kar detay thay. Ya sirf Rooh phonknay wali taqat sirf Allah kay pass hay)

Aap kay mutabiq tu jadogar har kuch kar sakta hay.. (means Allah nay jadogar ko har cheez karnay ki taqat di hay..) Jb Allah nay kaha hay kay ghayab ka ilam sirf main jata hon. tu aap ka yeh kehna . Allah aur rasool ki is baat ko khulam khula jhutla raha hay kay. Jadogar bhi apnay jado say Ghayab ki batain maloom kar leta hay...

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Itani saari ahadess jo kay quran paak ki nafi karti hain? zara mujhay bhi dikha ain na ..
yahan share karai na....

Also
Give the answer of following...
Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU

tu wo sari ahadees quran pak ki tasdeeq bhi kerti hain kya...?
quran pak mein tu un k bary mein koi tafseel he nahi ha or bohat si roz marah ki baton ki tashreeh tu ahadees sy milti hain jesy namaz or zakat wagara
but i am asking k agar wo ahadess galat hain tu zahir ha un k ravi galat ha tu ek galat ravi ko kaise ek hadees k liye sahi or doosri k liye galat kaha ja sakta ha jhooty ravi pr kaise aitabar kiya ja sakta ha

or apny mei uper aeyat ko nahi perha shaid ap kisi molvi ko chorain mein ny jo kaha ws pr bat karin kis ny kya kiya , kya nahi kiya mujhy nahi pata

Surat Al Baqra Aeyat no 102

"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty"

25-10-2009, 11:11 AM

To is say bhi yehi sabit hota hay na kay jado main koi asar nahi hay... chahay wo jo kuch bhi karain.

25-10-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

To is say bhi yehi sabit hota hay na kay jado main koi asar nahi hay... chahay wo jo kuch bhi karain.

janab mein apki iss aeyat ki translation sy itfaq he tu kr raha hn jado ghar ka jado koi asar nahi kr sakta jab tk k allah ka hukam na ho mein ny jo aeyat ki translation ki ha tu yehi ha na yan kaho galat translation k ha?

25-10-2009, 11:23 AM

jee.

but waisay bhi agar ap kehtay ho kay jadogar kay jado main asar hay tu Aap ko 100 % in baton ka man na lazami ho giya hay,.

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Hmmm..

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Phir tu is baat ko bhi maan lo na kay Tawwez jo marzi karna chahay kar sakta hay... Kiyon kay us main Allah paak ki marzi ho sakti hay... Quran paak bhi galay main lataka do wo bhi sab kuch kar sakta hay... Buton ki poja karna bhi start kar do. because us main bhi Allah ki marzi ho sakti hay.
Murda peer ki kabar par jao tu wo bhi jo kuch marzi kar sakta hay...

Aap kay mutabiq tu jadogar har kuch kar sakta hay.. (means Allah nay jadogar ko har cheez karnay ki taqat di hay..) Jb Allah nay kaha hay kay ghayab ka ilam sirf main jata hon. tu aap ka yeh kehna . Allah aur rasool ki is baat ko khulam khula jhutla raha hay kay. Jadogar bhi apnay jado say Ghayab ki batain maloom kar leta hay...

25-10-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by .BZU.

jee. but agar kehtay ho kay jadogar kay jado main asar hay tu Aap ko 100 % in baton ka man na lazami ho giya hay,.

mein ny kuch kaha in baton k bare k mein jitna keh raha hn ap utna he meri taraf mansoob karin na k apni taraf sy kuch jab mein in baton k bare mein apny views donga k inko kaise manta hn tab bat karna abhi sirf yehi...ok

25-10-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch

mein ny kuch kaha in baton k bare k mein jitna keh raha hn ap utna he meri taraf mansoob karin na k apni taraf sy kuch jab mein in baton k bare mein apny views donga k inko kaise manta hn tab bat karna abhi sirf yehi...ok

Ap bhi tu mujhay Behis ka shikar bana rahay hay kay .. jo marzi aa ay translate kar dia hay main nay...

aap nay tarjama aisa hei kia.. bilkul jaisay kay in molana sahab nay kia....

Acha abh khud soochoo....
let me explain..:

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Usi ooper wali ayat main daikho... aap kehtay ho kay main nay apni marzi ka translation kia hay....

But apnay in allama ka Freeb daikh lo...

Jinho nay aik hei ayat main aik hei lafaz kay 2 meaning nikalay hain....
Oper tu likh dia kay Wama,. means Aur Nahi...
But Usi ayat kay anadr aglay line main likh dia kay,

Wama means Pechay lag gay us ilam kay...

Yahan par kiyon nahi kaha kay?

Nahi nazil kia giya 2 farishton haroot maroot par?

aur phir nechay ja kar dobar yehi keh diya ...

Wama means nahi ...

main nay highlight kia hay

parh lain translate meri marzi ka bhi aur apni marzi ka bhi...

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25-10-2009, 11:11 AM	#2
.BZU.	Re: Shirk ki Aqsaam (Quran o Hadees ki nazar mein). Types of Shirk according to quran and sahee hadit To is say bhi yehi sabit hota hay na kay jado main koi asar nahi hay... chahay wo jo kuch bhi karain.