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Surat Yousaf Aeyat No 109:

"Ap (S.A.W) sy pehlay hum ny mard he rasool bhejay or wo inhi bastiyuon k rehnay walay thay"

Surat Ibrahim Aeyat no 10

"unhon ny kaha k tum tu hum jesy he insan ho"

Surat Ibrahim Aeyat no 11

"In k peghamberon ny in sy kaha yeh tu sach ha k hum tum jesy insan hain"

Surat Al Ambiya Aeyat no 7

"or ap (S.A.W) sy qabal hum ny jitny rasool bhejay wo sb mard thy"

Surat Al kahaf Aeyat no 110

"(Aa Muhammad (SAW)) elan kr dijiye k mein tu tum jesa he ek insan hn"

Surat Bani Israel Aeyat no 95-94

"logon k pass hadayat pohanch chuknay k bad iman sy roknay wali yehi cheez rahi k unhon ny kaha kya Allah ny ek insan ko he rasool bana kr bheja, Ap (S.A.W) keh dayn k agar zameen mein faraishtay chalty phirty or rehty bastay hotay tu hum bhi in k pass kisi asmani farishtay ko rasool bana kr bhejtay"
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Surat Al Inam Aeyat no 17

"Agar Allah tujhay koi takleef pohchana chahay tu iss takleef ko Allah k siwa koi door nahi kr sakta or agar bhalai kerna chahay tu bhi hr cheez pr qadir ha"

Surat Al Namal Aeyat no 62

"kn ha jo be qarar ki dwa sunta ha jabkeh wo issy pukaray or kn iss ki takleef ko rafah kerta ha or kn ha jo tumhein zameen ka khalifa banata ha kya Allah k sath koi or illah bhi ha?"

Surat Al Aeraf Aeyat no 194

"jin logon ko tum Allah k siwa pukarty ho tu wo tumhari he terhan k bandy hain agar tum (apny daway mein) sachay ho tu zaroori ha keh (jab) tum unhain pukaro wo jawab dayn"

Surat Al Nahal Aeyat no 20-21

"or Allah k siwa jinhain yeh pukarty hain wo koi cheez kya khak paida karain gy jabkeh wo khud paida kiye gye hain-wo murday hain zinda nahi inhain yeh bhi nahi pata keh dobara kab uthaye jayn gy"

uzma

Quote:

Yasrab kay waali .. saaray nabi tere dar kay sawaali

Nazia g its ans.is
Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.A.W) wo hasti hain jin k leay Allah ne ye dunya bsai.Es k mutalik different Hadith k mafhom ye hain.
I will tell it step by step.
(Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.A.W) ki digher Nabio per Fazilat)

Example:Setp:1
(Hadith)

onca Hazrat Jibraeel A.S came.Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.A.W) was sitting with
Hazrat Fatima R.A.Hazrat Jibraeel A.S said ,say salam to Hazrat Fatima R.A.
Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.A.W) said,
Fatima tumharay Chacha saying salam
Hazrat Jibraeel A.S said, chacha nhi ,i m the one who created by Allah
Ist of all.
Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.A.W) smiled & said when was created u what u saw
in sarrounding.
He A.S said
There was only a star shinning there.i saw that star 72 thousand times which appear
once in 70 thousands years.
Then Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.A.W) said That star was i.

Example:Step:2
(Hadith)
hazrat Adam & Hawa (A.S) ki toba some sentences ki adaigi k baad kabol hoe
when they use it in their Dua.This was


he said i saw this on Arsh in written form then
Allah k sath jis ka nam tha os yani Muhammad Hum ne os ka wasta de kr dua ki
or Allah ne hmari toba kabol ki.

Example: Step 3
Hadith.
Mairaj ki raat Baitul Muqadas mae tmam Nabio ne Hazoor (S.A.A.w)
ki amamat mae namaz perhi.

Example: Step 4
Hadith.
Hazrat Essa (A.S) ne Allah se Hazoor (S.A.A.w) k ommati bnnay ki dua ki thi ab wo AAp (S.A.A.W) k omati bn kr aiy gay or esayat ki nhi Islam ki
tableegh kray gay.

Example: Step 5
Hadith.
Qiyamat k din Hisab kiab se pehlay jo Be-chaini ki kaifiat ho gi
os k khatmay k leay tmam Nabi Hazoor( S.A.A.W) k pas jaiy gay or request kray gay
k Aap Allah se kehay or ye State or condition khatam ho or hisab kitab start ho phir Hazoor (S.A.A.w) ki sfarish pe ye amal start ho ga.

Example: Step 6
Hadith.
Hazoor (S.A.A.w) tmam Nabio k Amam hain.

now what u said? its all authentic Hadith
Not Molviuo ki ghari hoi kahania.........

usman_latif_ch

Pehli bat tu yeh ha k....
Agar yeh sb authentic ahadeees hain tu inka reference bhi plz quote karain kisi bhi bat per hadith likh deny say wo hadees nahi ho jati or sath plz kisi bhi asal hadees ko apni wording mein likh kr wsko hadees nahi kehna chaheya hadees apni asal wording mein likhni chaheya jesy ki waise he. or ap ko pata ha yeh kitna bara gunnah ha k kisi bhi bat per bina jany hadith likh dena...
ap in hadith ka reference quote karian or jahan tk bat ha inki tu yeh hamari baton ka jawab tu nahi hwa unka jawab tu dayn jo mein ny quran ki aeyat ko quote kien hain....

.BZU.

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch Pehli bat tu yeh ha k.... Agar yeh sb authentic ahadeees hain tu inka reference bhi plz quote karain kisi bhi bat per hadith likh deny say wo hadees nahi ho jati or sath plz kisi bhi asal hadees ko apni wording mein likh kr wsko hadees nahi kehna chaheya hadees apni asal wording mein likhni chaheya jesy ki waise he. or ap ko pata ha yeh kitna bara gunnah ha k kisi bhi bat per bina jany hadith likh dena... ap in hadith ka reference quote karian or jahan tk bat ha inki tu yeh hamari baton ka jawab tu nahi hwa unka jawab tu dayn jo mein ny quran ki aeyat ko quote kien hain....

haan baat kuch aur ho rahi hay . aur answer tu apnay hei di ay ja rahay hain, jo dimagh main feed hain..

Uzma ko itni saari Qurani Ayat par Imaan nahi hay... but un Wrong Ahadees par bara beleive hay...

This shows that She want to say .. kay Allah nay Quran Nahi utarna chahi ay tha. Bas Wrong ahadess in kay li ay kaafi hain...

Uzma.. Just answer .. kay quran majeed Allah nay kis li ay utara hay. Aur yeh bhi answer do kay Oper usman nay jo Ayat Likhi hain . kiya yah na aoz billah Jhooti hain? because you do not want to beleive on them.


Yes we know kay aap SAW ki Baaqi Nabi say ziyda fazilat hay...
But iss trah say nahi jis trah aap biyan kar rahy ho.. Kay Nabi say maango. App SAW dosaray prophets ko rizq detay thay...

Islam main Jhoot bolti ho. Because Allah aur App Saw kehtay hain kay Sirf Allah hei aisa karta hay.....

Agar koi banda aisa kehta hay ., mera nahi khiyal kay wo muslim ho ga.

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Christen bhi kehtay hain kay Essa. A.S Allah kay barabar hain. agar aap un ko muslim nahi kehtay tu . wo bhi muslim nahi hay . Jo yeh kahay kay Allah kay piyaray Rasool Muhammad SAW ki fazilat Allah kay barabar hain.
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Jo Muslim nahi hay . wo jahanam main jalay ga. abh agay maerzi hay....

uzma

Mam above quote ki hoe hadith mae ye kaha kis jaga per Mein ne
Mention kia hai k
1-Hazoor (S.A.A.W) tmam Nabio ko rizk detay hain?
2-Mein ne kab kaha hai k usman ne jo ayat ka refr. dia hai
wo wrong hai?
3-Above hadith mae kon c shirk wali baat hai ?
4-kab kaha k Hazoor (S.A.A.W) ka Rutba Na aoz billah Allah k braber hai

just clear that points

Usman g ofcourse i will give u all refr. bcz all r athantic
i feel no shame & fear to describe it all ok
now i m out of city Insha Allah after coming back i will give u refr.
about till Monday.
or post ka start kindly aik dafa or ghor se with full attention
parh lo ok
Nazia g baat se baat nikalna khob baat hai lekin abt Islam plz
think abt it. Baita g kisi pe kufer ka fatwa..............?
kehnay ko tu boht kuch hai bt ...............
sensibility se baat ko understand kerna or react krna
this is time requirment
& this is Islam say in the case of religious conversation.

usman_latif_ch

hmmm ....ok i am wait 4 this plz reference quote kar dayn or ek bat yeh bhi ap sy kahi thi k hadees k word apni language mein nahi balkeh waise he quote kiya karain...
kyoun k jesay apny hadees likhi hwi hain wo apki apni bat lag rahi ha may be thk hon apki batain laqin quotes zaroor karain mein verify kerna chahta hn or apko inka answer dena chahta hn...
or ek bat yeh bhi wazeh kar dayn ap in ahadees sy kya conclusion nikal kr batany ki kooshis ker rahi hain
kyoun k mein ny jo quranic aeyat quotes ki hain wo iss thread ki pic mein jo likha ha ws per hain or ws per hain jo kuch shirkiya lines nazia ny quotes ki thein

.BZU.

Uzma aik banda kahay kay main yeh batain manta hon aur in ko true prove karnay kay li ay, kuch jhooti man gharat ahadees paish kar raha hon... ..

Quote:

Bhar do jhhooli meri ya muhammad loot kar main na jaon ga khaali.

Quote:

Yasrab kay waali .. saaray nabi tere dar kay sawaali.

Aur in batoon say Allah aur us ka rassol mana farma ay, ya koi bhi aisi baat ho jis ay App SAW nay mana farmaya ho.aur aik banda wo kaam karay ya us mana honi wali baat say mana na ho. tu kiya aap usay muslim bolo gi? ..
off course nahi bolo gi...
but tell me what is wrong kay agar main nay aisa bool diya tu? is kay baad bhi abhi tak aap un Ahadees ko quraan majeed ki ayat kay muqablay main lanay ki koshish kar rahi ho...

jab wahan par yeh likha hei nahi huya hay then why you want to say this?

Quote:

Mam above quote ki hoe hadith mae ye kaha kis jaga per Mein ne Mention kia hai k 1-Hazoor (S.A.A.W) tmam Nabio ko rizk detay hain? 2-Mein ne kab kaha hai k usman ne jo ayat ka refr. dia hai wo wrong hai? 3-Above hadith mae kon c shirk wali baat hai ? 4-kab kaha k Hazoor (S.A.A.W) ka Rutba Na aoz billah Allah k braber hai

(Rizq dena means jo kuch Dossaray nabion. ko chahi ay hota tha tu wo nabi kay dar par sawal kartay thay aur un ko wo cheez mil jati thei. Chahi ay wo rizq ho chahay ay koi bhi madad . chahiye wo Mossa Kaleem Ullah (Allah say kalam karnay wala) ka Firoon say bach niklna ho ya chahi ay wo namrood ki jalai hoi aag ka Ibraheem A.S kay li ay Thandi ho jana ho) Aap kay mutabiq Muhammad S.A.W Jhooli bhar kay deta hay tu hum kehtay hain kay Allah tala aise karta hay. its means you want to say that kay Allah ki sifatPiyaray nabi kareem SAW main bhi hay...


pehli Hadees ko maan na in sab ayata ka kufar hay.... zahir hay Allah ka nabi apni hadees main us baat kay against baat tu nahi kahay ga na jo Allah tabarak watala nay Quran paak main likh di ho.
40 year tak aap SAW ghaar-e-hira main guzari, means 40 saal tak Aap SAW kay dunia main honay kay bawajood bhi pehlay jo deen aa raha tha...sab loog usi ko shirk kay saath mana kertay thay (mostly christen loog hongay shyad)

then 40 years ki ummar main aap SAW par Pehli wahi naazil hoi..

tu tab Hamra deen-e-islam wajood main aya... Essa A.S nay ummti bannay ki dua nahi ki thei balkay un ko tu us zamnay kay loog phaansi dena chahatay thay. means Saleeb par latkana chahatay thay. Tu Allah tala nay Essa Abne marium ko apni taraf bula liya. because Allah kay haath main sab kuch hay,(na kayYasrab kay waali kay haath main)... aur Allah Essa A.S ko bachana chahta tha tu Allah tabarak watala nay aisa kia...


Yes off course bechaini ki kafiyat ho gi. wo sirf un logon kay li ay jo kay aap SAW kay phailaa ay ho ay deen main apna deen lay kar baith ja ain gay. Quraani ayat ka khula inkar karain gay...
Never listen this before...


Ajj BZUPAGES par Irfan bhai nay aik Buhut achi baat share ki...


I wana be Ali R.A. LOL. ban tu koi bhi nahi skta.. but koshish tu ki ja sakti hay na, huq baat kehnay main kia harj hay..

.BZU.

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Originally Posted by uzma Usman g ofcourse i will give u all refr. bcz all r athantic i feel no shame & fear to describe it all ok now i m out of city Insha Allah after coming back i will give u refr. about till Monday. or post ka start kindly aik dafa or ghor se with full attention parh lo ok Nazia g baat se baat nikalna khob baat hai lekin abt Islam plz think abt it.

Asalamo Alaikum
Uzma sis...aaap shyad Quran-e-Kareem ki baat ko sun kar hum say naraz ho gai hay

3 weeks Honay ko hain abhi tak monday nahi aya ..
Please aap aa ja ain na wapis....

nahi tu...

Surat Bani israel aeyat no 81
"Or elan kr do haq aa gaya or batil bhag khara hwa or batil tu ha he bhag nikalny wala"

Chalo koi nahi Quran paak ko nahi man na na manay.. But hum sab friends nay naraz tu na hon na khush rahay ... But aik bat Allah kay saath kisi ko Shareek na thehrana... Chahay wo Allah kay Siwa (Mindo nillah) koi bhi hasti ho.. usay Allah ka shareek na thehrana.

Because

• Inka Shirkal Zulmun Azeem
• 23 years hamaray Piyaray Nabi Muhammad Kreem SAW nay bhi yehi Tableegh ki thei