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Then...........

Initially i have just a question

Ap k mutabiq jado ek dhoka ha , yani nazar ka dhoka
i want to know insan k nazar kisi k jado kerny pr kaise dhoka khati ha...wo knsi taqat ha jis sy insan ki nazar dhokha khati ha..

2ndly

kya nabiyon ki nazar bhi dhokha kha jati ha...?(kisi jhooty makaar jado ghar k amal dhokhay sy)

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch (Post 13226) Initially i have just a question Ap k mutabiq jado ek dhoka ha , yani nazar ka dhoka i want to know insan k nazar kisi k jado kerny pr kaise dhoka khati ha...wo knsi taqat ha jis sy insan ki nazar dhokha khati ha.. 2ndly kya nabiyon ki nazar bhi dhokha kha jati ha...?(kisi jhooty makaar jado ghar k amal dhokhay sy)

Yeh meri traf say nahi hay. Yeh Allah nay aur us kay rassol nay kaha hay...
Yeh parh lo...
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Ap k mutabiq jado ek dhoka ha , yani nazar ka dhoka i want to know insan k nazar kisi k jado kerny pr kaise dhoka khati ha...wo knsi taqat ha jis sy insan ki nazar dhokha khati ha..

Have you ever seen magic show? agar daihk ho tu pata chal ja ay kay nazar kaisay dokha kha jati hay... nahi daikh to kabhi daikh lena. Jadogar kaisay Apnay koot say kabotar nikal kar dikhata hay wagheera .wagheera...

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kya nabiyon ki nazar bhi dhokha kha jati ha...?(kisi jhooty makaar jado ghar k amal dhokhay sy)

Nabi bhi hamari trah kay insan hotay hain.. Dhokay baaz to kisi ko dhoka day saktay hain. chahay wo nabi hon ya hum jaisay insan...

LOL nabi ki nazar ko dhoka nahi kha sakti tu. Nabi par makar jadogar kay jadoo nay effect kar kay nabi ko Dewana kaisay bana diya. Astaghfirullah... :(
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Now answer above questions...

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ok apny kaha nabi bhi insan hain (han bilkul) or wo bhi hamari terhan dhokha kha sakty hain ok i agree...i will discuss you quote later thx for now

i will answer all above but first plz

han bohat bar deikha ha show laqin wohi tu poch raha hn ws k pass aesi knsi taqat ha jis ki bina pr wo insan ko dhokha dy deta ha...

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

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or wo jo firon k azdahay wo kahan chupaye thy or nazar aa rahy thy yani wo asli thay waise he chupaye thay kahin pocket mein or bahir nikal diye or Hazrat Mosa dhokha kha gye ...lol

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hmmm...thx waise mein sabit kerny ki nahi haqeeqat jannay ki kooshish kr raha hn kyoun k mujhy jo abhi tk smjh aeya ha wssi ko man raha hn kisi bat ki tashreeh apny andaz sy nahi kr raha na he apni smjh kisi pr nafiz krny ki kooshish kr raha hn jab allah mujhy mazaeed ilm dy ga iss bare mein mujhy or andaza ho jye ga kya haqeeqat ha kya nahi abhi tu yehi pata ha
mein ap k sare sawalat k jawab ap sy he dilwany ki kooshish kr raha tha

Allah chahy tu ikhteyar dy sakta ha warna koi bhi kuch nahi kr sakta chahay wo jado ghar ho yan koi or yehi mera iman ha bas...
agar ap k nazdeeq allah k ikhteyar mein kami ho gai ho tu pata nahi jo wo kisi ko kisi ka nuksan kerny ka ikhteyar nahi dy sakta ab...(Allah forgive)

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han bas apny Mussa (A.S) ka name nahi liya...
laqin i tell you wo nabi thy quran yehi kehta ha

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch (Post 13246) hmmm...thx waise mein sabit kerny ki nahi haqeeqat jannay ki kooshish kr raha hn kyoun k mujhy jo abhi tk smjh aeya ha wssi ko man raha hn kisi bat ki tashreeh apny andaz sy nahi kr raha na he apni smjh kisi pr nafiz krny ki kooshish kr raha hn jab allah mujhy mazaeed ilm dy ga iss bare mein mujhy or andaza ho jye ga kya haqeeqat ha kya nahi abhi tu yehi pata ha mein ap k sare sawalat k jawab ap sy he dilwany ki kooshish kr raha tha Allah chahy tu ikhteyar dy sakta ha warna koi bhi kuch nahi kr sakta chahay wo jado ghar ho yan koi or yehi mera iman ha bas... ---------- Post added at 12:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 PM ---------- han bas apny Mussa (A.S) ka name nahi liya... laqin i tell you wo nabi thy quran yehi kehta ha

Jab Allah nay itna ilam dia hay tu in ko kiyon nahi man na hay?:salam:frown:
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Main nay kisi na kisi nahi kaha .. main nay yeh kaha hay kay... Allah kam say kam us ko itna ikhtiyar nahi day ga jis kay li ay Allah keh day kay wo kamiyab nahi ho sakta.. day tu day sakta hay. but itna nahi kay muslaman loog yeh man nay ko tiyar ho ja ay kay. Is jadogar ko Allah nay Lakri/Rasi main Rooh Dalnay ka ikhtiyar diya hay...

Aur dosari baat: itna tu aap bhi maantay ho kay sab kaam Allah kar sakta hay. aur Allah nay itni taqat kisi ko nahi di...

Phir Quran ki ayat kay dosaray meaning nikaal kar yeh kiyon sabit karnay ki koshish kartay ho kay Allah nay jadogar ko itni taqat di hay kay wo kuch bhi kar sakta hay... yeh doghala policy kiyon hay... wo bhi quran ko mannay kay muamlay main?

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yeh kahan likha ha quran mein jado ghar ka jado kisi ko nuksan nahi dy sakta...?

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jab keh Allah keh raha ka k siwaye iss k keh Allah he nuksan ka hukam dy dy yani Allah jado ghar k jado mein asar dal sakta ha agar chahy tu isska tu yehi matlab ha...

ap kn ho allah ko paband kerny waly k allah ny kis ko kitna ikhteyar dena ha...?
yehi likha ha k jado ghar kamyab nahi ho sakta tu isska matlab ha k wo dhokha deny mein bhi kamyab nahi ho sakta phir...tu kaise hota ha?

last line ki translation perho likha ha "kya yeh jado ha or jado ghar kamyab nahi ho sakta" btaow kis cheez k bary mein kaha gaya ha k kamyab nahi ho sakta trick (magic) krny k bare mein yan nazar k dhokhay k bare mein?

or abhi tk ap ny yeh jawab nahi diya jado ghar faraib kaise deta ha insanon ko or ap k mutabiq nabiyon ko bhi jo hamari terhan k insan hain

apny mujhy kaha tha wsdin aj mein apko kehta hn sary paisy mein deta hn mujhy trick kr k deikhow itnay sare azdahy mujhy nikal kr deikhow...

trick sy kisi isan ko 2 hison mein kat kr phir join kr k deikhow joaw sb tricks krny waly ly aow mein bhi deikhna chahta hn wo trick kaisa ha phir mein yeh bhi deikhon trick kaise kiya wsny

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jab Allah nay keh diya hay kay jadogar kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta tu yeh baat khudbakhud aap ko pata chal jani chahiay kay wo kisi ko apnay jado mantar say nuqsaan bhi nahi pohuncha sakta...

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apny mujhy kaha tha wsdin aj mein apko kehta hn sary paisy mein deta hn mujhy trick kr k deikhow itnay sare azdahy mujhy nikal kr deikhow... trick sy kisi isan ko 2 hison mein kat kr phir join kr k deikhow joaw sb tricks krny waly ly aow mein bhi deikhna chahta hn wo trick kaisa ha phir mein yeh bhi deikhon trick kaise kiya wsny

yeh sab aap kay mutabiq ho jata hay.. aap khud kar kay dikhao na... mere zima kiyon laga rahay ho... main nay tu nahi kaha kay hota hay aisa... aur na hei quran main kaha giya hay kay azdhay thay.. quran main tu baar baar kaha giya hay kay yeh jadogar ka fareeb tha. nahi man na tu na mano. mujhay is say koi farq nahi parta... abh mujhay mazeed quran ki ayat qoute karnay ki zarorat nahi hay.. aap in ko maan hei nahi rahay tu aur ayat ko tu pata nahi kia kia kaho gay..

sirf yeh proov dainay kay li ay kay... Firon kay Kafir jaodgaron nay.. Azdaha bana li ay thay. aur Allah ka yeh kehna ghalat hay ..


Kay firon kay jadogaron nay fareeb (dhoka diya kia tha)


Yeh mosa A.S kay mojza kay baray main hay.. kay kia yeh Haq Jado hay?

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apny kaha na jado nahi hota trick(dhokha) hota ha tu mein jado nahi trick ki he bat kr raha hn trick kr k deikhow na phir mein sabit kronga yeh trick nahi ha nazar ka dhokha nahi ha...

tum trick sy mere samny sanp banana phir batana kaise banaye hain kyoun k trick hoga tu wska koi tareeqa bhi hoga na wo mujhy batana ok
ap itnay sare samp ek sath apni pocket mein chupa lena
yan trick sy kisi ko half kr k deikhna yeh tricks tu hoty hain na magic shows mein tu kr k deikhna mein phir sabit karon ga trick nahi ha yeh...

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Allah ny nahi kaha wo trick ha Allah tu keh raha ha k jado ghar ka jado nuksan kr sakta ha agr mein chahon

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Apny he wsko kaha ha wo trick ha or kuch bhi nahi

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ok ji Nikalo Paisay ... hahaha

I should not post these videos in Islam Section ...but still posting for you ...

See at 3:20 ....

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aesi videos mein jado kr k tu mein bhi deikha sakta hn ( jado tricks nahi) tu kya mujhy bhi paisy do gy ...

All of the above videos are being performed through some special arrangments and thats are tricks every one know

and i believe too that tricks can be done but
their is a lot difference b/w trick and magic through some knowledge

ap k mutabiq jado sirf trick ha laqin mein yeh kehta hn jado ghar jado kr sakta ha without these tricky arrangments laqin ws ka jado Allah ki merzi k baghir asar nahi kerta laqin agar Allah chahy tu asar kr bhi sakta ha

yehi tu mein ap sy pochna chahta hn k agr firoan ny sirf dhokha diya tha tu kya Hazrat Musa (A.S) bhi ws k tricks sy dhokha kha gye?

agar wo snacks sirf nazar ka dhokha tha tu Moosa (A.S) k assa sy bany azdahy ny kis cheez ko nigla, agar wo sb azdahy nazar ka dhokha thy tu moosa (A.S) kyoun dary or Allah ny un k assa ko azdaha bana kr wo dhokhay walu snaks ko kyoun nigla...

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yani Allah chahy dhokha nuqsan kr sakta ha is it?
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Pehli baat ...

Aap nay kaha Keh Insaan ko kaat kar doobara Milanay wala Jado dikhao ... us ki asliyat aap nay daikh li ...

doosri baat ...

Aap keh rahay ho keh jado allah ki marzi say kaam karta hay .. woh tu sab kuchh allah ki marzi say hota hay ... iss tarah tu main bhi keh doon keh main ghar main baithay baithay fallan kaam kar sakta hoon ... Lakin agar Allah Chahay tu ho jaye ga aur agar allah na chahy tu nahi ho ga ... Tu kia yeh jadoo ho ga?

Kia Jadoogar yeh kehta hay keh Allah Nay chaha tu hoga ? wo tu yeh kehtay hain keh humaray ammal say hoga ...

Agar kehtay ho keh jadoo gar kay amal main asar hay tu phir peeroon kay amal main bhi asar hona chahiay... They also do similar things... don't they?

http://www.asanquran.com/Quran/Pages/Images/633.gif


Unhoon nay rasiyan aur lathiyan phaikein ... Saanp nahi thay woh (might be acting like snakes) ... As far I know they were just moving like snakes ...

Aur next ayat kay end main likha hua hay "Un kay jhotay shobdoon ko"

Any correction will be accepted ... :)


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No, It could be interpreted like that ...

Aik jadoogar nay kaha keh yeh banda iss din mar jaye ga ...

Aur Allah nay bhi uss banday kay marnay ka hukm day dia ho ...

Tu kia Allah us jadoogar ko jhoota karnay kay liay apna hukm change kar dain ?

Banda maray ga tu Allah kay hi hukm say But jadoogar kahay ga keh us ki waja say hua hay, Agar woh apnay Amal na karta tu banda na marta ...

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yeh tu trick tha na mein jado ki bat kr raha hn yeh tu apny khud he proov kr diya trick ha laqin jado aesa nahi hota wska physical effect hota ha

Surat Al Baqra Aeyat no 102

"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty

kya cheez thi jo mian biwi mein tafarqa dalti yeh kis k bare mein kaha gaya ha trick k bary mein ?

kaise mantr thy jo unko nuqsan he ponchty thy faida nahi......

ap sy pochon ga kya yeh trick hoga?
(nahi na jado na trick)

kya ap khana khany sy pehly , kisi ko koi bat kerny sy pehly yeh kehty ho k agar allah chahy tu yeh kam hoga ya nahi tu kya ap shirk kerty ho?


han unhon ny rasiyan phanki or they were acting like snaks but yeh tu wahan hwa na mein ny ap sy pocha kya nabi ki nazar ws trick sy dhokha kha gai or dar gai kya?




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jado ghar ny kaha banda mar jye ga tu kya allah logon ki azmesh k liye wski bat ko sach nahi ke sakta?

jesy hindu buton sy mangty hain magr deta tu allah he ha na tu kya wo bhookhy marty hain wo tu apny bhagwanon sy mangty hain tu kya unko nahi milta kuch, milta ha na or deta tu allah he ha na

yehi tu bat ha na interpretation ka he tu sara masla ha quran ki interpretation youn nahi ho sakti na aesy tu hr koi apni he kary ga na
ok apny yeh interpretation ki ha mein yeh kerta hn faisla kn kary ga sahi ha yan galay
yaqeenan sahi ahadees he karain gy or apny sahi ahadees ko he apni interpretation sy takra kr galat kr diya tu ab phir ab....?(larai he larai)

jadu (according to you dhokha) kisi ko nuqsan nahi poncha sakta magar siwaye iss k Allah he ws nuqsan ka hukam dy dye.

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han na yeh Allah ny nahi kaha mein bhi nahi keh raha hn mein poch raha hn na ap sy agr wo dhokha tha tu kya Allah k nabi dhokha kha gye thy? kyoun k jado tu dhokha ha unhon ny jado kiya or jado sy wo strings Hazrat moosa ko snacks nazar any lag gye

Allah ny kaha ha jado dhokha ha han mein bhi manta hn jado dhokha ha or mein yeh bhi manta hn kyoun k Allah ny he yeh bhi kaha ha k agr allah chahy tu nuqsan ka hukam dy sakta ha
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Allah ny kahin nahi kaha jado agar koi kary ga tu mein wski wajha sy kisi ka nuqsan nahi hony donga Allah ny kaha ha k agr Allah chahy tu nuqsan ka hukam dy sakta ha

or abhi apny iss ki apni interpretation nahi batai

Ap ajkal khud sy interpretations kr rahy hain tu mein ny yeh janana ha k iss aeyat mein wo kya cheez ha jis sy mian biwi mein tafarqa dal deti ha...... jado trick ha ha wo tu ap k nazdeeq nahi kuch kerta kyoun k Allah ny ap sy shaid wada liya ha k mein jado ghar(dhokhay baz) agr jado(dhokha) kary ga tu mein kisi ki azmaesh k liye kisi ka nuqsan nahi hony doonga kyoun k mein ny nuqsan hony diya tu shaid phir jado ghar kamyab ho jye or jab keh mein ny kaha ha wo kamyab nahi hoga......?

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Ap ajkal khud sy interpretations kr rahy hain tu mein ny yeh janana ha k iss aeyat mein wo kya cheez ha jis sy mian biwi mein tafarqa dal deti ha......

Wo loog kehtay thay kay is say Miyan biwi main tafarqa ho jata hay , (is ilam say)...
But yeh un kay li ay nuqsaan deh tha. because yeh sirf kufar tha.. aur kufar har kisi kay li ay nuqsaan deh hota hay.. aaj nahi tu qiyamat walay din zaror nuqsaan deh hay...
But Allah nay kia kaha hay... yeh bhi tu parho na aap....


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Jab jadogar apnay jado say Kisi ko ghar baithay hei nuksaan (phisically effect) pohuncha sakta hay tu . Yeh kiyon nay mantay kay jadogar kamiyab ho jata hay. (Agar jadogar ka maqsad hei kisi ko physical effect karna ho ? tu kia Allah usay physically effect karnay day ga.. aap kay concept kay mutbiq zaror karnay day ga. aur us time Allah yeh bhool ja ay ga main nay Quran main yeh likha hay kay yeh beiman shakhas kamiyab nahi ho sakta )

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch (Post 13276) kaise mantr thy jo unko nuqsan he ponchty thy faida nahi......

Mantar Allah nay quran majeed main nahi likhay tu mujhay kia pata hoga. yahan kay yahoodi jo bhi mantar kartay thay . Allah nay un ki baat ki hay kay wo jo mantar kartay thay.

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch (Post 13276) jesy hindu buton sy mangty hain magr deta tu allah he ha na tu kya wo bhookhy marty hain wo tu apny bhagwanon sy mangty hain tu kya unko nahi milta kuch, milta ha na or deta tu allah he ha na

hmm...
tu hindon ka aqeeda bhi sahi huya na. Is trah tu bhagwan bhi jo marzi aa ay kar sakta hay na... tu aap un kay aqeeda ko kiyon nahi mantay. jab aap yeh baat maan rhay ho kay Jadogar bhi Allah ki marzi say kar sakta hay...


Ghoor karo: Quran main tu Allah nay saaf saaf keh diya kay jadogar koi nuksan nahi pohuccha saktay. kisi ko effect nahi kar skaty .. aap kehtay ho kay kar saktay hain... Right..

Jabkay Allah nay quran main Bhagwan kay rizaq dene ya na dene ki koi baat bhi nahi ki. aap un ka aqeeda phir kiyon ghalat maantay hain..



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Molvi peer tu phir bhi Allah ki di hoi kitab ko (jiska Allah say relation tu hay kay Allah pak ki taraf say bheiji gai hay) taweez banatay hain. Phir bhi un ki logic banti hay. Aur Allah nay quran main taweez karna kahein par ghalat nahi kaha.. (But Hadees kay mutabiq yeh ghalat hay)

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Jadogar ka jado (Mafooqul Asbaab jadoo). ka tu zara sa bhi Allah kay saath koi relation nahi hota hay. Because jadogar yeh bakwas kartay hain kay . yeh sab ham nay khud hei kia hay.jaisa ka Firon kay jadogar. unhon nay yeh tu nahi bola tha na kay yeh Allah ki madad say hoga.wo tu yeh mantay bhi nahi thay kay Allah hay. phir jab unhain pata chala kay wo haar gay hain tu tab unhon nay kaha kay hum Mosa aur Haroon kay rab ko mantay hain.:happydance:
is say saaf pata chal jaata hay kay jadoo gar khud apnay aap ko yeh manta hay kay wo apni mari say jo kuch chahay kar sakta hay...

even kay Allah nay quran majeed main farma bhi diya kay yeh sab ghalat hay.yeh sab un ka shubada tha.fareeb tha. aur na hei is say koi nafa nuqsaan ho sakta hay.

By the way aap ki interpretation say yeh baat sabit hoti hay kay dunia main Allah nay Kafir Jadogar ko har kaam karnay ki taqat di hay. jab kay Allah kay siwa kisi aur hasati main har kaam karnay ki taqat man lena kufar aur shirk hay... But meri interpretation say aisa bilkul nahi sabit hota kay Allah ka koi sharek hay.

:tremblelip: Abh agay aap ki marzi hay aur aap ka concept ... main nay jitna samjhana tha samjha diya. Allah hum sab ko Sacha paka muslim bana ay...

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Asalam-o-Alaikum to all here,

Mene yeh poora thread read kiya hay lekin me ap dono (BZU, USMAN) ka moqaf nahi samajh paya will u please explain k app ka moqaf kiya hay is behes ka ? takay muje bhi samajh me aye ke kiya sahi hay or kiya galat.

Regards

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yeh interpretation tu apki ha k wo kehty thy iss aeyat mein tu yeh kahin nahi likha...? yeh tu bilkul apki tahir ul qadri wali interpretations hain

dus bar ghore sy perhain keh iss aeyat mein allah kya farma rahy hain Allah ny yeh nahi kaha k wo kehty thy

"Or wo dono unko kuch nahi seekhtay thy jab tk keh yeh na keh dayn k ham "zeryah e azmaesh" hain tum koofar mein na pero' garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn or Allah k hukam k siwa iss (jado) sy kisi ka kuch nahi bigar sakty thy or kuch aesy (mantar) seekhty jo inko nuqsan he pohchty or kuch faida nahi or jis cheez k eewaaz unhon ny apni jaanon ko baich dala wo buri thi. kash wo iss bat ko janty

yeh Allah keh raha ha garz log insy aesa jado seekhty jis sy mian biwi mein judai dal dayn translation tu wazeh ha bikul

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

Allah chahy tu ho sakta ha or yeh kamyabi ha kya...... k wska jado Allah chahy tu kisi ka nuksan kr dy jab keh Allah ny wski nakami rakhi ha agar wo jado asar nahi ker sakta tu kamyabi ka kehny ka swal he paida nahi hota Allah ny kyoun kaha k wo kamyab nahi ho sakta iss liye kaha k wo agar muqabaly k liye aye tu Allah he kamyab hoga wo nahi jesa k Hazrat Moosa k qasay mein hwa
agar sirf dhokha ha tu kamyabi or nakami ka sawal he nahi paida hota kyoun k ha he dhokha kya dhokha kamyab b ho sakta ha

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

Just read this book http://bzupages.com/f329/qissa-haroo...-new-post.html

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

duniya k tamam ilm Allah k siwa koi nahi nazil kerta na kr sakta ha na he Allah k hukam k elawa koi kuch kr sakta ha
yahan tk k sans bhi nahi ly sakta

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I have read many like these....
Almost many of the different school of thoughts

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

laqin yahan tu kaha ja raha ha k jado ka asar ho he nahi sakta Allah chahy bi tu nahi....

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch (Post 13331) duniya k tamam ilm Allah k siwa koi nahi nazil kerta na kr sakta ha na he Allah k hukam k elawa koi kuch kr sakta ha yahan tk k sans bhi nahi ly sakta ---------- Post added at 07:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 PM ---------- I have read many like these.... Almost many of the different school of thoughts

haan na Allah kar sakta hay.. Aur Allah nay us zamanay main Aap kay interpretiton kay mutabiq Kufar utara tha. aur Allah tala ka yeh kehna bhi ghalat ho giya kay Saleman A.S nay kufar nahi kia. frishton nay kufar nahi... because us zamanay main Frishtay hei kufar lay kar zameen par utrtay thay...:bangin:

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laqin yahan tu kaha ja raha ha k jado ka asar ho he nahi sakta Allah chahy bi tu nahi....

waisay yeh iss li ay kaha ja raha hay kay Quran main Allah tabrq watala nay khud farmaya kay kay jado gar kabhi kamiyab hei nahi ho sakta hay...chahay jadogar kisi bhi tareeqay say kuchh kar kay dikaha ay..

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

han bilkul aesy he jesy hindo apny khudaon k bary mein kehty hain, perr sb kehty hain yeh sb mein ny kiya agar wo kisi ko keh dayn k tumhare ghar beta hoga tu agar Allah k hukam sy ho jye tu wo b yehi kehty hain or Allah aesy he logon ki azmaesh kerta ha un jhoton k bat ko sach kr k

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya?
kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka?
Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki?

yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

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lakh bar keh chuka hn jado mein , taweiz mein, booton mein asar nahi ha laqin Allah logon ki azmaesh k liye jado k zaryeh logon ka nuksan kerwa sakta ha
booton sy mangny pr kuch bhi ata kr sakta ha
taweiz mein asar nahi laqin logon ki azmaesh k liye tawez k zarzeh kisi ko shifa dy sakta ha

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

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Originally Posted by usman_latif_ch (Post 13339) kya sheetan ko Allah ny paida kiya? kya Sheetan ko ikhteyar Allah ny diya wawasy dalny ka? Kya Allah ny he iss duniya mein Achai or burai paida ki? yan nahi ha yeh sb kuch?

usman aap Pehlay aap oper walay 17 questions ka answer to dain..


But aap ki saari behis say itna saaf zahir ho raha hay kay.... aap in baton ki sacha sabit karnay ki koshish kar rahay hain...

Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko
Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.

Aur Yeh bhi kay...

Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zada shakhsiyat they,aur un par yahoodiyon nay jado kar diya tha (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)

Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar ju taleem di...

Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay....

• Agar aap saari behis is li ay nahi kar rahay tu kis li ay kar rahay hain?
• Aur agar aap yeh bat kay li ay behis kar rahay hain tu quran main majeed ki aur ahadees ko quote karain ?

Abh mujhay abhi exams ki study karna hay... will contact you ASAP...


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There is hell of difference between shetaan and Jadogar...
Jadogar is Human being. Sheetan is not....

Aur sheetan kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi farmaya jaisay ka Allah nay Jadogar kay bray main farmaya hay...

Aur frishton kay baray main Allah nay yeh bhi nahi kaha kay. Frishtay Kufar ki taleem dene aa ay thay. balkay Allah nay yeh saaf keh diya kay frishton nay kufar nahi kia... (albaqrah 102)

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

mera yeh semester kafi mushkil ha mein zara thora papers sy farig ho jaon phir apko ap he k 17 sawalon ka jawab donga or kooshish jesy apny khud swal banaye hain or jawab diye hain mein bhi aesy he ap k jawab dnga or sawal bana kr donga

Magar bat phir b wohi reh jye gi ap apni soch k mutabiq quran k interpretation kero mein apni k mutabiq laqin yeh larai jari rahy gi jab tk ahadees ko consult na kero but apny tu sahi ahadess ko he quran sy takra diya ha tu ab kerty raho larai apni apni interpretation pr

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

You read books like that but not that :D
Just read that book once ...:smilestar:hahaha:studying::books:

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

mujhy sach yan jhoot sabit kr k kya lena ha kisi sy namera koi firqa ha na mein koi bohat bari postion pr ha na mere peechy koi mananay waly muraid hain

mujhy jo haq lag raha ha wohi janta hn
ap log jan kr sahi Ahadees ko quran sy takra rahy hain

abhi tu yeh tu ek masla ha or bhi bohat sy aesy masly hain or aesy pata nahi kitni sahi ahadees galat ho jati hain ap k liye
abhi tu apka pata nahi ek or bhi log hain jo azab e qabar ko bhi nahi manty
kyoun k quran mein kahin iska zikar nahi or wo bhi aesy he quran ki kuch aeyat ki apni taraf sy tashreeh kr k sb azab e qabar ki balkh or bhi bohat sy masael ki ahadees galat kr rahy hain or yehi munkareen e ahadees hain

mujhy nahi pata kis ko kya diya ha mujhy yeh pata ha jo Allah ny kaha saf translation ha isski

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han jado ghar nahi kamyab ho sakta mein bhi manta hn
balkeh yahan tk k shetan b kabhi kisi ko wargalany mein kamyab nahi ho sakta jab tk k Allah na chahy

Re: Jadoogar kay Jado main Asar ke Qaeleen say chand Sawalat. Question to follower of Jado's Effect. URDU
 

Aap tu quran majeed ko hei quran majeed say takra rhay ho.. Surah baqrah Ayat 102 porri parho..

Aap udhar yeh mantay ho kay Frishton nay kufar nahi kia. aur udhar mantay ho kay frishtay zameen par aa kay Loogn ko jado sikhatay thay.. baap ray.....

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Aap un 17 questions ko chhoro wo tu aap nay itnay din ho gay hain . di ay hei nahi ..shyad 17 questions ziyda mushkil ho gai hain..

aap chalo yeh batain sabit kar kay dikhao.

jis kay liye aap itnay din say mere say behis kar rahay hain...

1. Allah nay zameen par us hasti ko ; Lakri main Jaan dalnay ki taqat di hay (Jaan dalana sirf Allah ki sifat hay) jis kay li ay Allah nay kaha hay kay wo kabhi kamiyab nahi ho sakta.
2. Hazart Mohammad SAW Jado zada shakhsiyat they,aur un par yahoodiyon nay jado kar diya tha (Jaisay kay Mushrakeen e makah ka iman tha)
3. Allah tala nay Sleman A.S ko frishton kay zariay Kufar aur jado ki taleem di... (Jado kufar hey , aur frishton ka jado sikhana bhi kufar hay. means frishton nay bhi kufar kia)
   
4. Jadogar ko Allah nay nakamiyab kaha hay. aur Allah nay jadogar ko Dunia jahan kay sab kaam karnay ki taqat di hay.... (jabkay, Bhagwan, tawez, etc waghera waghera ko yeh taqat nahi di)
   

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waisay in Questions kay Answer main nay khud nahi di ay hain...
takay aap etraaz na karo kay question poch kay answer khud hei day di ay hain..

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Originally Posted by Raheel (Post 13319) Asalam-o-Alaikum to all here, Mene yeh poora thread read kiya hay lekin me ap dono (BZU, USMAN) ka moqaf nahi samajh paya will u please explain k app ka moqaf kiya hay is behes ka ? takay muje bhi samajh me aye ke kiya sahi hay or kiya galat. Regards

hmmm... aap nay agar is thread ka title parha ho tu shyad aap ko baat maloom ho ja ay ... kay mera kia moqaf hay...

waisay usman ka moqaf Opper jo main nay likha hay wohi hay...