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.BZU. 12-02-2009 04:12 PM

Computer Science Department Strike,
 
:scratchchin:Computer Science Department Strike...
Students ka Mutalba...:rant2:
  • Computer science department ki fees kam kar kay dosaray departments kay barabar ki ja ay...(Admission kay waqat humain pata nahi tha kay kitni fee hay )
  • Students ko semester ke sab papers dene ki ijazat di ja ay, even ki un subjects kay base walay subjects main unki supply kiyon na ho :)
Otherwise Department ko Lock kar diya giya hay...:happydance:



What do you think about this strike.......

I think yeh strtike nahi honi chahi ay thei... Students ki demands maujhay tu bay buniyad lag rahi hain.. what do you think about this behaviour of the Computer science students...



BSIT07-01 12-02-2009 06:02 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Waisay tu strike nahi honi chahiay...

The point about "Pre. requisites" is somehow legal...
Why have they done so... A student who has repeat in one subject, is not allowed to take more than 1 subject in next semester...
Like in our Class (BSIT 2007-11)...
Students who has repeat in Data Structure, are not allowed to appear in Two subjects "Data Base Management System" and "Intro. to Software Development" ...


Although there is a little bit relation of Database with data structure but is not too much...

AND What is relation of Data Structures and Intro. to software Development .........
Here is course outline of Intro. to software Development http://bzupages.com/f38/course-outli...ineering-1835/

:(

.BZU. 12-02-2009 07:11 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
You are right...:thumbup: This was the reason that I am with the favor of this strike...
:13:Hamaray kaafi saray class fellows ko 2 subjects parhnay ki aijazat nahi hay... WHY:beg:

usman_akhtar 13-02-2009 04:01 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
salam; agar students ko itney relaxation mil gaey to kon perhay ga .......:thumbdown:
jahan tak fee ki baat hay haan wo thek hay wo zaroor kum honeyu chaheyey

BSIT07-01 13-02-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
But, Mein ne suna hay... Strike ki waja inn mein se koi bhi nahi thi...
But the only reason was to change Chairman.... No other points were came out during protest... just "Change Chairman"...
So what is this...?

boomb strike 13-02-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Computer Science Department Strike...

Students ka Mutalba...
1: For open merit students Fees 21000 to 35000 kyun hain isay sab k equal 4000 to 7000 kyun nhe kartay......??
2:IT k students ko Degree kyun nhe di ja rahe k un k paperz gum ho gay hain gum b to kisi na kiay hoon gay student ka kya qasoor k aik Year xtra lagaen......??
3: Toperz Students ko half Fee kyun return nhe hoti pori University ma jab wapis hoti hai to kya CS DEPT aasman sa utra hai......?
4: Evening Classes k nam sa Night Classes kahan sa ban gaii yeh jo 6 o' clock tak off hota hai chaloo late hoo b jaen to 35000 RS danay waloon k lia aik Shutal ya Route b nhe lagaya ja sakta............
5: Permanent Facaulity Kuyn nhe hai Dept ki,, agar permanent nhe b hain to bahir sa College k teachers ko to na bulao parhanay k liye
agar 35000 bhar k un sa parhna hai to 1200Rs bhar k bahir na parh lain............
6: IT aur CS k lia Pre-RACK system khatam kia jae....
>>>>>Abe 4 mutalbat aur thy jinhain VICE CHANCELLOR OF BAHAUDDIN ZAKARIA UNIVERSITY NA VALID mana aur un ko on the Table rakh k un pa Centigate Bithaya ta kay kisi k sath na insafi na hooo yeh thi haqeeqat ..............jo VC k table pa gae..

6 Corore ki Fee aati hain per years Students ki taraf sa Dept Of CS ma in ma to aik new University b ban jae









.BZU. 13-02-2009 04:28 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
But Stirke main Teachers ka kiya Qasoor hay?
Why students did wrong with the Teachers last day (Thursday)
Kiya in teachers ki insult karnay say yeh Mutalbay poray ho sakatay hain ?
nahi na..
Tu phir teachers ki department main insult kiyon ki gai..
Shame on the protesters...

Agar yeh Mutalbay Manwanay thay tu Government ko bolo na, teachers ka kiya qasoor hay>? iss main?
Un ka yehi qasor hay kay wo humain Parhatay hay? humain Knowledge dete hain?

Nandla 13-02-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
When will u wake up guys....................................

!!Ahmad Mushtaq!! 13-02-2009 08:11 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Jahan tak mujhe pata hai, teachers k saath kuch bhi nai hua tha! or maybe I was late. Aur wasif aap to strike par aye hi nai the! Aap ko kis ne bataya k teachers k saath aisa hua tha?

aliasad 13-02-2009 08:28 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
fees kam karen or topers ko concession den nahi to:rant2:

BSIT07-01 13-02-2009 08:30 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aliasad (Post 4855)
fees kam karen or topers ko concession den nahi to:rant2:

Waisay yeh achhi baat ki hay aap nay....:)

sedra malik 13-02-2009 08:33 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
G blkul strike honi chaheay.
Q k CSdept ka mutalba blkul jaiz hy.
And i request u 2 al d studnts of BZU 2 encourage d Jiyaalay stdnts of CSdept.

.BZU. 13-02-2009 10:42 PM

We have talked to Department teacher then we have come to know about the situation of thursday...
Quote:

Originally Posted by !!Ahmad Mushtaq!! (Post 4854)
Jahan tak mujhe pata hai, teachers k saath kuch bhi nai hua tha! or maybe I was late. Aur wasif aap to strike par aye hi nai the! Aap ko kis ne bataya k teachers k saath aisa hua tha?

I have recieved this sms just 20 minuts ago...

Quote:

Please inform to all fellowz n friendz k agr sendicates commeeti students k khilaf faisala karti ha. tu iss say sab students ko na kabile talafi nuksan ho skta ha. we have 2 unite 2 achieve our goal. If we dont unite all students have 2 face lot of problmz. So hum sab ko is maksad kay liye sath sath chalna hay, Is kay ;iye humain LONG MARCH ki bhi zarorat par sakti hay. So please un fellows and doston ko kahin kay hamra sathh dain Aur sab boyz and girls ko is kay liye convence karain kay hum monday ko long march kay li ay willing hain. Agar fsala hamaray favour main nahi jata..CS UNITY ZINDA BAD

!!Ahmad Mushtaq!! 13-02-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
I've also recieved this sms! And I think that its absolutely correct! If we didn't unite then we will face a lot of problems!

Madiha Fatima 14-02-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
ma soch soch k thak gay k kon thek ha kon ghalat mjha kch smajh ni aya.but aik bat ma kahun g k ham logo ki adat ha k jo cheez hmara fayda ki hoti ha ham usko thek kehta ha agar pata chala k is bat ma hmen nuqsan ho raha ha to usko avoid krta ha.g ghalat ha hmara sath na-insafi ha.acha farz kren wakai aman sahb ghalat han lekin kea wo teacher ni han?kea hamara mazhab na ak 'ustaad' ka maqam hamen ni bataya?Hazrat Ali(R.A) na kea frmaya tha k jis na mjha aik lafz parhaya wo mera aqa ha.
or kea ham un bacho ko bhul gay jo ustaad mohtram ki jutean seedhi krna k ley apa ma larai krta tha.farz kren maan leta ha Aman sahb wesa ustaad ni kea ham wesa shagird han?chalo thek han CS dpart k mtalbat thek han lekin lekin aman sahb k bara ma ajeeb ajeeb na,ara lagan thek ha?unki insult krna thek ha?ap etjaaj kro but zara tmeez k dayra ma reh k.
And i know thursday ko aik teacher k sath kea hua?ma abhi tk faisla hi ni kr pai k kon thek ha kon ghalat so ma neutral hun abhi tk but mjha strike ma jo jo kch ho raha ha uska to pata ha.
Bs ap log is bat ko mind ma raken k chahe haar ho ya jeet parhana tou teachers sa ha na apko?kea baad ma unsa nazar mila sken ga?
Boht sara logo ko meri bat achi ni laga g but i dn't care.mena jo socha likh dea.

BSIT07-01 14-02-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
hmmm;

yes, you're right madiha...
But meri apnay kuchh class fellows say baat hui thi ... woh keh rahay thay . Teachers kay sath kisi ne misbehave nahi kia ...

But mujhay aik teacher ne khud kaha hay keh... "our students pulled us out from our offices"

Is not this misbehave......

Ab mein Aik Teacher ki baat ka yakeen karoon ya students ki......

linta 14-02-2009 07:27 PM

teachers k sath bht galat kia giya teacher teacher hota hay aaram say baat kartay to sunta bhi sahi koi ab mushkil hay

teacher ki izat nai karta jo wo hamesha badnaseeb rehta hay

iam also a visiting teacher n all teachers felt that this is 2 much degrading behaviour

!!Ahmad Mushtaq!! 14-02-2009 09:09 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
OK wait! What you have to say about this:

One of our teachers sweared the following words to the female strikers:

"Ye larkian to awaari hain" (These girls are just tramps) :eek:

What you will feel like if someone swears your sister like that? I don't know about you but I'll definetely feel ashamed of being a student of that teacher.

There are some teachers who just don't care about us. But at the other end, there are some teachers who can sacrifice anything for us. Because they consider us as their own childeren and we surely respect them. So we can't paint all the teachers with the same brush.

I'm repeating this again:
"The strike was against the Chairman"

So there is no way you should say that we were against the teachers. If some stupid students pulled the teachers out of their rooms then in no way you can say that all the students were doing this. And I'm damn sure that those students were from PSF and we knocked them out. See.... You cannot paint all the students with the same brush.

Quote:

Bs ap log is bat ko mind ma raken k chahe haar ho ya jeet parhana tou teachers sa ha na apko?kea baad ma unsa nazar mila sken ga?
Hum ne kia bura kia? Agar humien humara haq na mille to kia hum usko maang nahin sakte? I don't think its shameful. Infact kuch teachers ne to baad main humien shabash di. What you have to say about this? Kia wo teachers ghalat hain?

Quote:

acha farz kren wakai aman sahb ghalat han lekin kea wo teacher ni han?kea hamara mazhab na ak 'ustaad' ka maqam hamen ni bataya?
Kia hum ne unko gaali di? Kia hum ne unke baare main bura bhala kaha? Humne sirf ye naare lagaye:

Na Manzur... Na Manzur.. Chairman Na Manzur
Go.. Chairman..Go..
No Studies.. No Class.. Boycott.. Boycott..
Girti hoi diwar ko.. Aik dakha aur do..

Mujhe ye btaen k kaunsi dunia ki dictionary main in words ko ghalat kaha gaya hai?
Actually baat ye hai k aapko kisi ne keh dia hoga k strike main bure bhale alfaaz kahe gaye the teachers k khilaaf aur aap ne araaam se qabul kar lia hoga.

Quote:

teachers k sath bht galat kia giya teacher teacher hota hay aaram say baat kartay to sunta bhi sahi koi ab mushkil hay
The students talked about it with the management but when nobody hears then strike is the only option left.

Quote:

iam also a visiting teacher n all teachers felt that this is 2 much degrading behaviour
We can't paint all with the same brush....

Quote:

Ab mein Aik Teacher ki baat ka yakeen karoon ya students ki......
Believe no one. Just believe yourself. If you think that chairman was managing the department rightfully then students were wrong, and if you think that the chairman was not managing the deparment rightfully then the students were right.

Again.. The sole purpose of the strike was only to change the chairman.

I just wrote what I thought was correct according to my knowledge. Sorry if I hurt someone. :shrug:

.BZU. 15-02-2009 12:07 AM

Ahmad just tell me one thing .,..
Jo kay aap ko buri lagi...

Quote:

"Ye larkian to awaari hain" (These girls are just tramps)
:45:
Teachers said these words are for those girls.. who don't care about their parents and teachers...

Quote:

Fee ziyada hay? haan
:2funny:Tu jab Admission lene aa ay thay tab pata nahi tha kay itni fee hay?

is sli ay bhi kay sir nay Sab students ko pass kiyon nahi kiya?
unbelievable-discrete-mathematic-result-bsit-5th-instructor-sir-amman-ullah
Agar sir nay papaers marks kartay ho ay kuch ghalat kiya hay tu rechecking kiyon nahi karwa lete?

Quote:

Hum ne kia bura kia? Agar humien humara haq na mille to kia hum usko maang nahin sakte? I don't think its shameful. Infact kuch teachers ne to baad main humien shabash di. What you have to say about this? Kia wo teachers ghalat hain?
Hamara haq yeh hay kay humain taleem di ja ay...
abh achha ho raha hay fee bhi pay kar di hay aur parhai bhi nahi ho rahi hay...

aap Raheem yaar khan say yehi haq lene aa ay ho kay Sir Amman ko hatana hay?

Quote:

And don't be so panic
:achillpill::achillpill::achillpill:

beta jee zara bato tu sahi..
Sir Amman nay kiya kia hay..
Jo aap itna Uchhala rahay ho...
Kay..

Quote:

Na Manzur... Na Manzur.. Chairman Na Manzur
Go.. Chairman..Go..
No Studies.. No Class.. Boycott.. Boycott..
Girti hoi diwar ko.. Aik dakha aur do..

.BZU. 15-02-2009 10:38 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 

Qurrat-ul-ain 16-02-2009 12:08 AM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Hello Brother
Khairiyat Hamaray CS Walon ko kiya ho gaya ha............Y pehlay tu aisay na thay??Aur Kon s Teachers k sath Misbehave kiya gaya ha......?

Madiha Fatima 16-02-2009 03:20 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by !!Ahmad Mushtaq!! (Post 4904)
OK wait! What you have to say about this:

One of our teachers sweared the following words to the female strikers:

"Ye larkian to awaari hain" (These girls are just tramps) :eek:

What you will feel like if someone swears your sister like that? I don't know about you but I'll definetely feel ashamed of being a student of that teacher.

There are some teachers who just don't care about us. But at the other end, there are some teachers who can sacrifice anything for us. Because they consider us as their own childeren and we surely respect them. So we can't paint all the teachers with the same brush.

I'm repeating this again:
"The strike was against the Chairman"

So there is no way you should say that we were against the teachers. If some stupid students pulled the teachers out of their rooms then in no way you can say that all the students were doing this. And I'm damn sure that those students were from PSF and we knocked them out. See.... You cannot paint all the students with the same brush.



Hum ne kia bura kia? Agar humien humara haq na mille to kia hum usko maang nahin sakte? I don't think its shameful. Infact kuch teachers ne to baad main humien shabash di. What you have to say about this? Kia wo teachers ghalat hain?



Kia hum ne unko gaali di? Kia hum ne unke baare main bura bhala kaha? Humne sirf ye naare lagaye:

Na Manzur... Na Manzur.. Chairman Na Manzur
Go.. Chairman..Go..
No Studies.. No Class.. Boycott.. Boycott..
Girti hoi diwar ko.. Aik dakha aur do..

Mujhe ye btaen k kaunsi dunia ki dictionary main in words ko ghalat kaha gaya hai?
Actually baat ye hai k aapko kisi ne keh dia hoga k strike main bure bhale alfaaz kahe gaye the teachers k khilaaf aur aap ne araaam se qabul kar lia hoga.



The students talked about it with the management but when nobody hears then strike is the only option left.



We can't paint all with the same brush....


Believe no one. Just believe yourself. If you think that chairman was managing the department rightfully then students were wrong, and if you think that the chairman was not managing the deparment rightfully then the students were right.

Again.. The sole purpose of the strike was only to change the chairman.

I just wrote what I thought was correct according to my knowledge. Sorry if I hurt someone. :shrug:

or tou kch ni kahun g siway is k k
"Dil k behlaana ko ghalib khayal acha ha"
nahi nahi ap logo na tou teachers ko izat di unko sar ankho pa bthaya.
PSF walo ko kon laya?agr baad ma ap logo na pSF walo ko bhagya tou apna fayda k ley coz ap logo ko feel hua k PSF wala double game kr rahy han.kea wakai amaan sahb k bara ma ya jo nara laga kch bhi nahi.My God!
Afsos hi kr skti hun.mjha tou bas itna pata ha k ham jo bolayn ga us k zimadaar ham khud hi hon ga dusra apna ap ka zimadaar.teachers na kea kaha ya unki merzi,ham logo na khud ko kea sabit kea?matlab ham dusron ki zyndagi jeetay han.apni hamari koi soch ni.
koi word bura ni hota ,just kehna k tareeka usko acha bura banata ha.
jo bhi ha amaan sahb ki insult ki ha ap logo na.balka tmaam teachers ki insult hui ha.baki jo apna kea mena pehla bhi kaha tha k mjha ni pata k kon haq pa tha kon ghalat.ma tou hun averge student,rattay laga k pas ho jati hun.mjha is baat sa koi farq ni parta.but ma tou just teachers ki izat ki baat krun g.
Baa adab baa naseeb,be adab bey naseeb

!!Ahmad Mushtaq!! 16-02-2009 04:38 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Oh madiha. You think you can fool us! Why don't you just give me a favor and vote for 'Strike ni honi chaiyie'

Kiunke aapke replies se to yahi pata chal raha hai k aap strike k khilaaf hain aur phir bhi har message ke end main baar baar keh rahi ho k you're neutral.

I'm so upset today because all of my friends ,who didn't participated in the strike, were giving us rude comments in the department.

Low semester Fees, 50% less fee for repeating a subject, scholarship for the toppers, scholership for roll no.1 and other scholarships..... What are these......? This is the output of our effort. And it wasn't possible if Dr. Aman Ullah remained our Chairman. You know what!!?? You don't deserve this... kiunke participation to dur ki baat, aapne to humare lie dua bhi nai ki hogi.

Mujhe to afsos is baat ka ho raha hai k sab kuch pata hone k bawajud aap is tarhan keh rahe ho. How can you do this to us? Everybody know that we should respect our teachers. Laikin iska matlab ye to na hua k aap ke saath koi ziadti ho aur aap chup chaap bhete raho. Kia aap bhul gae jo mere saath hua tha? It really hurts.

You don't want a CHANGE!!! FINE!!! But we want a CHANGE and we will fight for it.

.BZU. 16-02-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !!Ahmad Mushtaq!! (Post 4962)
Oh madiha. You think you can fool us! Why don't you just give me a favor and vote for 'Strike ni honi chaiyie'

Kiunke aapke replies se to yahi pata chal raha hai k aap strike k khilaaf hain aur phir bhi har message ke end main baar baar keh rahi ho k you're neutral.

I'm so upset today because all of my friends ,who didn't participated in the strike, were giving us rude comments in the department.

Low semester Fees, 50% less fee for repeating a subject, scholarship for the toppers, scholership for roll no.1 and other scholarships..... What are these......? This is the output of our effort. And it wasn't possible if Dr. Aman Ullah remained our Chairman. You know what!!?? You don't deserve this... kiunke participation to dur ki baat, aapne to humare lie dua bhi nai ki hogi.

Mujhe to afsos is baat ka ho raha hai k sab kuch pata hone k bawajud aap is tarhan keh rahe ho. How can you do this to us? Everybody know that we should respect our teachers. Laikin iska matlab ye to na hua k aap ke saath koi ziadti ho aur aap chup chaap bhete raho. Kia aap bhul gae jo mere saath hua tha? It really hurts.

You don't want a CHANGE!!! FINE!!! But we want a CHANGE and we will fight for it.

Dear aisi koi baat nahi hay...
Hum keh rahay hain kay aap nay sab acha kiya hay ...
But Sir Amman was the great teacher...
Mujhay aur kuch nahi pata hay bas...

!!Ahmad Mushtaq!! 16-02-2009 04:51 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Ya I also believe that he is a great teacher with tremendous amount of knowledge. But he ignored the wants of the students.

aliasad 16-02-2009 07:49 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
chairman ko 2 years ke lye change kia gia he seniours ke maze or juniours ki barbadi.
Fee kam karne ka na to koi notification aye he or na hi aye ga.
agree or not. on other hand today monday 16 feb no teacher teach us. whats this I got up early pressed my clothes and reached department for just this. very sad. do you think so.

iambored 17-05-2009 02:21 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
hmm really bad news

.BZU. 17-05-2009 05:40 PM

Re: Computer Science Department Strike,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iambored (Post 8450)
hmm really bad news

Due to this Strike now we have found lot of changes...
A big change is here..
Computer Science Department has been changed into Institute of Computing Bzu Multan


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