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Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! 3 Attachment(s) ***Important Note: I must say before viewing this video one must read and think what is actually happening there in the video because some of friends can't understand and say its not "sajda" its just kissing of feet...(and that is too prohabited in Islam) First of all i want to share some of the lyrics of the "qawali" that is being sung in this video 1) Jahan Jahan nazar aye tu "Tahir" karain hm "Sajda" 2) Kaaba ho ya boott khana iss sy nahi koi matlab 3) Peenay ko tu pee loonga per shart zara si ha ......baghdad ka saqi ho or Minhaj ka maay khana 4) Bey-Dam teri qismat mein hain sajday issi daar k, choota ha na chootay ga "sangay-dare-jana" Secondly I want you to please see attentionally in video that may be one of the person's may or may not he is, kissing his feet otherwise all of them are doing "Sajda" on in-front him at the cushion that is being placed there and you see that his feet are behind the upper cushion, besides all these observations you can hear in Qawali, they are saying themselves that they are doing Sajda and "Tahir ul Qadri" is appreciating them to continue... You must have flash player pluginn to watch or just click here to download the video (file size: 36MB) Attachment 11628 |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Logon kay imaan kharab ki ay ho ay hain, aur tu koi baat nahi hay.. Allah Pak ki sifat hay kay usay sajda kia ja ay. Abh hamray Molvi na aozbillah Allah Kay barabar ho gay hain , kay un ko sajda karna par raha hay... Lanat Ullah par rahi ho gi in stupid molvi's par jo Allah ki shaan ko apni shan bana baiathay. aur Qiamat kay din yeh Buray logon kay saath utha ay ja ay gay. agar inhon nay Allah say maaufi na maangi tu... |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Such a stupid people they don't have sense? Allah in logon ko raah e raast par laye. They don't know what they are doing. But the scholar must stop them, if he is not stopping then he is also responsible for such type of crime. That's why it is said that extremism is not good in any way. *********************ALLAH O AKBAR******************* |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Comment on Mr. Asad's below post ( Mr. Asad please give your views now by answering my questions) Aslam o alykum! Quote:
> i am fully agreed upon this with you and accept it that we all must should not blindly trust any one's preechings(even any scholor's preeching) but we must research by ouself too about the matters related to islam and then if when we are sure it is strictly according to islam(Quran and Sahi ahadees) then we should follow and act. Quote:
> Yes i agreed he has said at many occassions that it is haram and shirk but my question then why he is promoting such kinds of things by arranging / attending that kind of occassions in which the happennings leads to shirk and haram... Quote:
> yes i have viewed many of these kind of his videos but again comming to that point that have you ever researched that what he is saying is it true or not, he said in ahadees it is allowed to kiss feet and handa but have you yourself read any Sahi hadees that illustrates that is is allowed in islam no its not because according to me there is no such a single sahi ahadees which shows this it is allowed But a one more question is that after reading your post i am really confused that on the one side you are saying it Dr. Qadri said it is allowed in islam according to many Ahadees(this is allowed in Islam and is proven through Hadith and acts of Sahaba and our Islaaf (including Imam Muslim and Imam Bukhar)), and on the other hand you are saying this too "Dr. Qadri does not allow anyone to kiss his hands and feet usually and as I mentioned this is one of the very rare occasions this ever happened"... i asked you if it is allowed and mentioned in many Ahadees then he must appreciate this action and he should often do so because what is mentioned in Ahadees is sunnat and we must Apply sunnat in our daily life as mush as we can without any fear...is it? Quote:
>You have quoted some references but have not quoted any text of even a single of them(Imam Bukhari's book 'Al Adab Al Mufrad' hadiths 975 through 979) can you please quote the complete text of some with complete references...and also mention is it a sahi hadees and which of the Mohadaseen said this is "Sahi" because as we know Imam bukhari have learnt by heart about many lacks of ahadees and he just wrote only few thousands "Sahi Ahadees" on which they are sure, and on those Ahadees all are agreed and no one will refuse them. Quote:
>Yes agreed...So please answer my question and give required texts and references Wassalam, |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! ek jahil ka gumrah hona us k apnay liye nuqsan ka sabab hay lekin koi scholar ya molvi gumrah ho to apnay sath sath ummat ko bhi jahanum me le jata hay, misal sab k samnay hay, Allah hamain bhi or in logon ko bhi haq ki raah per chalna or sabit qadam rehna naseeb farmaye. |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! I am shocked to see the dreadful manner in which you have uploaded a video on your forum website indulged in character assassination of a prominent religious figure whose services for Islam in multiple fields are recognized and praised and also appreciated by the follows of the late saint Bahadudin Zakriya Multani (RA). I regard it below my dignity and an utter wastage of time to comment on the character assassination, rumour-mongering, misrepresentation and twisting of facts and presentation of half truths Therefore I would like to protest against your website and would like to urge you to investigate this issue and to remove the video clip and the thread created by the user. The user and the admin should also be removed from the websites. ----------new text added ---------- I can understand that by seeing such video its a natural reaction that one may start thinking what you concluded. But I believe this is our duty in light of Allah's command and Rasool Allah's instructions that we should not scatter any news without proper research. Especially if some news involve respect of any person. And when it comes to an Alim-e-Deen, our duty increases even more. Here is the Quranic verse I would like to refer: O Believers! If some wicked person brings you any news, inquire thoroughly into its truth (lest) you should cause (undue) harm to a people unknowingly, and later feel regret for what you have done. (Ch. 49, V. 6) Similarly there are Hadiths of Rasool Allah (PBUH) suggesting doing research before spreading any news. So brother, all of us (including myself) should do extreme care before spreading any such news, especially when it is realted to any scholar. Now coming back to the point. Let me first mention that Dr. Qadri has made this statement very clearly on several occassions that doing sajda to anyone or anything with niyat of ibaadat is 'Kufr', and doing sajda to anyone or anything with niyat of respect is 'haraam'. He condemns and advises those ignorant people who sometimes do sajda of respect to graves of pious people and strictly instruct them that this is haram (or shirk if someone does that with niyat of ibada). Now in the referenced video, this is one of the very rare occasions when he allowed anyone to kiss his feet feet in respect, and this is allowed in Islam and is proven through Hadith and acts of Sahaba and our Islaaf (including Imam Muslim and Imam Bukhar). Dr. Qadri does not allow anyone to kiss his hands and feet usually and as I mentioned this is one of the very rare occasions this ever happened. It's not that he does not allow it because it is haraam, he just does not allow it because of his humility and humbleness. I've known Dr. Qadri for at least two decades and have attending several events in his presence and I witness that I've never seen him allowing someone kissing his feet ever, again because of his humbleness only, even though it is allowed in Islam. Now here are some references that shows that kissing hands and feet of elders are allowed in Islam: First of all, Imam Bukhari's book 'Al Adab Al Mufrad' hadiths 975 through 979 shows us that Sahaba (RA) used to kiss Prophet's (PBUH) hands and feet, and Sahaba (RA) kissed hands and feet of other Sahaba (RA) too. Here is the video of Dr. Qadri himself explaining these hadiths:
The ruling among the authorites that kissing the hand of the scholar is mustahab is categorically proven by the fact that when Imam Muslims met Imam Bukhari, he desired to kiss not merely his hands but his feet. This was gratuitous behavior on the part of Imam Muslim and display of humbleness and respect by Imam Bukhari who did not allow kissing his feet. But had this been haram, Imam Muslim would not have even demanded that. Here are some of the articles discussing this in detail and refering to other ahadith and historical facts: http://miftaahulkhair.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/kissing-the-hands-and-feet-of-pious-people/ http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/kissingscholarhand.html http://www.yursil.com/blog/2006/09/kissing-feet-and-prostration/ http://www.ahlus-sunna.com/index..php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=111 We Muslims (in general) have developed a habit of reaching to conclusion without doing any research and that is the reason there are so many problems and misunderstandings have developed among us. We should learnt to respect each other, especially our ulema, even if we may have any difference of opinion with them. Having difference of opinion with any scholar in Islam (whether related to Fiqh or Aqeeda/theology) should not justify us start spreading any bad news about him/her. We Muslims need to learn respecting scholars belonging to all school of thoughts and this would result in respect of us (all Muslims) as one nation. May Allah give us more knowledge in His path and give us toufeeq to respect our elders and ulemas. Wassalam, | |||||
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But Why you not think kay Allah Paak ki sifaat ko aik Allama main maan lia ja ay tu Kia iss main Mere piyaray Malik ki reputation/ Allah ki shaan main gustaakhi nahi ho gi? Buhut afsoss huya. kay loog Aik insaan ki shaan main gustakhi tu qabool nahi kar saktay. But Allah ki shaan main gustakhi karna buhut acha lagta hay in logon ko... Very sad very bad Asad... Religious figure wo hoti hay jo Allah tala nay Quran majeed main biyan ki.. Allah ki shaan hay us say madad mangi ja ay. even kay hum har rooz namaz main bhi Sorat fatiha main yehi kehtay hain kay Ay Allah hum tujh say hei madad mangtay hain. aur teri hei ibadat kartay hain. Tu sajda karna aik ibadat hay.. Aap in Alama ko kehna chahain tu keh saktay hain kay yeh Islam kay Scholar hain, But kia aap mujhay bata saktay hain kay .. Piyaray nabi kareem SAW nay .. kabhi bhi kisi sahabi R.A ko kaha ho kay mujhay tum sajda karo.. Beshak nahi kaha hay. Because Aap SAW kabhi bhi Allah ki shaan main gustaakhi nahi kartay they..Aap SAW tu is baat ki tableegh kartay thay kay Sajda kay laiyaq Sirf aik hei zaat hay , jis say hum madad mang saktay hain, Aur har dafa namaz main us zaat ki barai beyan kartay hain... usay sajday kartay hain. now you still think kay In Alama sahab nay Allah ki shaan main Gustaakhi nahi ki? Asad Aap bhi PM ki baja ay yahan reply karain na openly.. Aap kay dil main Khoof kiyon hain Logon ka |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! First of all, this site is not related in condition to Bahauddin Zakariya University, This is just and online forum connecting BZU Students Second thing ki yeh ek open online disscussion forum hai yahan hur users ko permission hai ki woh kisi cheez ke related bhi disscuss ker sakta hai in proper catogery. aur is forums ke owners us ke risponsible nahi hai in any condition. hum kisi bhi users ko force nahi ker sakte ki aap yeh na disscuss karo woh na disscuss karo then how we run our site? hum sirf yeh dekh sakte hain ki koi kisi bhi topic per bad languages na use kare and larayi na ho kisi bhi topic per.. and i saw that, is poore topic per aisa kuch bhi nahi hua.. agar aap ko apna opinion dena hai is poore mamle me then aap bhi replies karo no problem at all.. yahan koi kisi ke khilaaf kuch nahi kia jaa raha hai ek user ko koi baat sahi nahi lagi jo ki poori tarah uski personal soch thi to usne yahan share ki aur kuch users ne jo ki usse agree kerte the unhone ne replies kiye.. then whats the problem..? kya hamne yh thread sticky ka hua hai ya main page per is ka link lagaya hua hai..? ya users ko force ker rahe hain ki woh is baat per agree kare..? no way.. hur users ki apni personal soch hai aur woh poori tarah free hai kisi topic per disscuss kerne ke liye in decent language.. now my personal opinion on this matter.. me zyaadaa naahi jaanta hadiths ke baare me bcoz sorry to say me bhi un lakhon logon me aata hoon jo duniya me itne gum hain ki unhe apne deen ke liye time nahi.. but i have one question..zara socho koi banda kisi mazar per fatiha perh raha hai and uske baad usne us mazar ko chooma aur kuch bhi kia chahe woh as a respect kia ho but socho agar koi non muslim ya koi muslim jo ki zyada islaam ke baare me na janta ho woh yeh dekhega to kya sochega..? woh yeh sochega ki naaozobillah un mazar me itni taqat hai ki woh hamara achcha bura ker sakta hai and hame apni fariyad unse kehni chahiye.. woh hamara bhala karega aur yehi ho raha hai aaj kal poori duniya me mazaron per.. kitne non muslim and muslims jaate hain mazaron per maangne to kya hamari yeh responsibility nahi hai ki hum aisa koi kaam na kare jisse shirq ko bhadawa mile..? kya kal qayamat ke din aalah taala hame is baat per nahi pakdega ki tune to ek kaam kiya but tujhe dekh ker hazaron logon ne shirq kya ..? kya un sab shirq ka gunah us shakhs ke gardan per bhi nahi hoga jise dekh ker woh start hua..? in my opinion hoga.. hume aisa koi kaam nahi kerna chahiye jo ki galat na ho but aisa kaam bhi nahi kerna chahiye jo galat na hote hue bhi galat lage.. aap to kehto hi haan yeh sajda kerna galat hai bcoz aap ko ilm hai in baaton ka but jise ilm nahi hai kya kabhi unse jaa ker poocha hai woh kya soch ker yeh karte hain..? bhai sahab woh kisi ke haath ko ya feet ko respect me nahi choomte woh is liye choomte hain bcoz woh sochte hain ki yeh hamara achcha nad bura ker sakte hain.. to kya us haath aur feet ko chumwane wale per kal qayamat ke din paqad nahi honi hai ki tune apna haath kyon nahi jhatka..? mere hisaab se hogi zaroor hogi.. thats all.. allah taala hamse aisa koi kaam na kerwaye jaane ya anjaane me jisse hum shirq ko bhadawa dene walo me gine jaayen.. Aameen.. |
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Now tell me, did you research for what you said below? Quote:
and also give me answers of questions, I've sent you in PM ... I've clearly mentioned that I will remove this thread after acceptable answers of the questions in my PM ... But you did not answered those questions, but you just sent another message ... Any way Here I am sharing my PM, which I've sent to you ... any one who wanted to remove this video, please answer these questions Quote:
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Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Respected Brothers and Sisters Prof. Dr. Tahir ul Qadri made the Mazar and tomb of Tahir Alauddin al gilani al baghdadi adjacent to masjid in town ship. It is just one example of his promotion of bid'at. I can give you many examples of his promoting bida'at. صحیح بخاری:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 413 حدیث متواتر حدیث مرفوع مکررات 8 محمد بن مثنی، یحیی ، ہشام، عروہ، حضرت عائشہ رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہا روایت کرتی ہیں کہ ام حبیبہ اور ام سلمہ نے ایک گرجا، حبش دیکھا تھا، اسمیں تصویریں تھیں، انہوں نے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم سے اس کا ذکر کیا آپ نے فرمایا کہ ان لوگوں میں جب کوئی نیک مرد ہوتا اور وہ مر جاتا تو اس کی قبر پر مسجد بنا لیتے اور اس میں یہ تصویریں بنا دیتے، یہ لوگ اللہ کے نزدیک قیامت کے دن بدترین خلق ہوں گے۔ خاری:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 422 حدیث متواتر حدیث مرفوع مکررات 6 عبداللہ بن مسلمہ، ابن شہاب، سعید بن مسیب، حضرت ابوہریرہ رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ روایت کرتے ہیں کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا کہ اللہ تعالی یہودیوں کا ناس کردے کہ انہوں نے اپنے پیغمبروں کی قبروں کو مسجد بنالیا۔ صحیح مسلم:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 2237 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 5 یحیی بن یحیی، ابوبکر بن ابوشیبہ، زہیر بن حرب، یحیی، وکیع، سفیان، حبیب بن ابوثابت ابووائل، حضرت ابوہیاج اسدی سے روایت ہے۔ مجھے حضرت علی رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ نے فرمایا کیا میں تجھے اس کام کے لئے نہ بھیجوں جس کام کے لئے مجھے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے بھیجا تھا کہ تو کسی صورت کو مٹائے بغیر نہ چھوڑ اور نہ کسی بلند قبر کو برابر کئے بغیر۔ صحیح مسلم:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 2237 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 5 یحیی بن یحیی، ابوبکر بن ابوشیبہ، زہیر بن حرب، یحیی، وکیع، سفیان، حبیب بن ابوثابت ابووائل، حضرت ابوہیاج اسدی سے روایت ہے۔ مجھے حضرت علی رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ نے فرمایا کیا میں تجھے اس کام کے لئے نہ بھیجوں جس کام کے لئے مجھے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے بھیجا تھا کہ تو کسی صورت کو مٹائے بغیر نہ چھوڑ اور نہ کسی بلند قبر کو برابر کئے بغیر۔ According to following Hadith the people who build mazars and do lighting on graves DESERVE CURSE OF Prophet Muhammad pubh. سنن ابوداؤد:جلد دوم:حدیث نمبر 1459 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 7 محمد بن کثیر، شعبہ، محمد بن حجادہ، ابوصالح، حضرت ابن عباس سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے قبروں کی زیارت کرنے والی عورتوں پر لعنت فرمائی ہے۔ اس طرح قبروں پر مسجدیں بنانے والوں اور اس پر چراغ جلانے والوں پر بھی لعنت فرمائی ہے۔ جامع ترمذی:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 301 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 7 قتیبہ، عبدالوارث بن سعید، محمد بن جحادہ، ابوصالح، ابن عباس سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے لعنت کی قبروں کی زیارت کرنے والی عورتوں قبروں پر مسجدیں بنانے والوں اور چراغ جلانے والوں پر اس باب میں حضرت ابوہریرہ اور حضرت عائشہ سے بھی روایت ہے امام ابوعیسی ترمذی فرماتے ہیں حدیث ابن عباس حسن ہے سنن ابن ماجہ:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 1575 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 7 ازہر بن مروان، عبدالوارث، محمد بن حجادة، ابوصالح، حضرت ابن عباس فرماتے ہیں کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے قبروں کی زیارت کرنے والی عورتوں پر لعنت فرمائی ۔ مسلم:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 2237 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 5 یحیی بن یحیی، ابوبکر بن ابوشیبہ، زہیر بن حرب، یحیی، وکیع، سفیان، حبیب بن ابوثابت ابووائل، حضرت ابوہیاج اسدی سے روایت ہے۔ مجھے حضرت علی رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ نے فرمایا کیا میں تجھے اس کام کے لئے نہ بھیجوں جس کام کے لئے مجھے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے بھیجا تھا کہ تو کسی صورت کو مٹائے بغیر نہ چھوڑ اور نہ کسی بلند قبر کو برابر کئے بغیر۔ صحیح مسلم:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 2237 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 5 یحیی بن یحیی، ابوبکر بن ابوشیبہ، زہیر بن حرب، یحیی، وکیع، سفیان، حبیب بن ابوثابت ابووائل، حضرت ابوہیاج اسدی سے روایت ہے۔ مجھے حضرت علی رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ نے فرمایا کیا میں تجھے اس کام کے لئے نہ بھیجوں جس کام کے لئے مجھے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے بھیجا تھا کہ تو کسی صورت کو مٹائے بغیر نہ چھوڑ اور نہ کسی بلند قبر کو برابر کئے بغیر۔ ماجہ:جلد اول:حدیث نمبر 1562 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 11 ازہر بن مروان و محمد بن زیاد، عبدالوارث، ایوب، ابوزبیر، حضرت جابر فرماتے ہیں کہ رسول اللہ نے قبروں کو پختہ بنانے سے منع فرمایا۔ محمد بن یحییٰ، محمد بن عبداللہ رقاشی، وہب، عبدالرحمن بن جابر، قاسم بن مخیمرہ، حضرت ابوسعید سے روایت ہے کہ نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے قبر پر عمارت بنانے سے منع فرمایا ۔According to above hadices Prof. Dr. Tahir ul Qadri not only promoted bid'at but also promoted shirk and curse for muslims by building and lighting Mazar of his peer. Quote:
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Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Do people prostrate themselves before Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri? Some mischievous and unwise people tampered with the video clips of Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus under the banner of Minhaj-ul-Quran International in 2005 and uploaded them on the internet to propagate that people were falling in prostration before Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri and that Shaykh-ul-Islam was appreciating the gesture. It is stated that no such incident took place and it is but a slander, pure and simple. Those who have cooked this conspiracy are afraid that their fabricated beliefs are being hammered. In their heart of hearts they are afraid of Shaykh-ul-Islam’s towering intellectual personality and his powerful arguments based on Quran and Hadith. They are, through these base tricks, trying to distract the attention of people from Shaykh-ul-Islam’s wisdom-laden speeches and books. Mindlessly, they are flinging mud on the person who presented Islam based the Holy Qur`an and Hadith; on intellectual level they have yielded, so they are behaving in this foolish way. First of all, we would take up for discussion the matter of video clip of Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus so that the confusion of those unwise and simpleton people, who have developed doubt that (God forbid) someone is offering prostration to Shaykh-ul-Islam, may be clarified. 1. Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri never allowed anyone in his life to fall in prostration before him. What to speak of prostration, he strictly forbids his followers to kiss his hands. He never likes the act of someone kissing his feet. 2. He can clearly be seen pushing the person away who was bending to kiss his feet in the video clip of Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus. Is it not regrettable that some of the ‘blind’ commentators have interpreted his act as demonstration of appreciation? 3. The entire world knows this fact that Shaykh-ul-Islam offers his prayer while sitting in the chair due to pain in his backbone and always uses medicated seat for sitting purpose. Therefore it was not possible for him to suddenly bend down to stop the person from bowing to kiss his feet. However, he can be seen trying to stop him with his hands. 4. The world also knows this too that he does use foot rest owing to pain in his backbone but he had participated in the Mahfil Samaa` held in Damascus during his journey. Therefore pillow was used due to unavailability of foot rest in the Mahfil Samaa`. The pill was not used there (God forbid) for people to bend over it and fall in prostration to him. What a pity that those commenting on it regarded it as an act of prostration in contravention of all cannons of justice and fair play! 5. Since the Mahfil Samaa` was held during the journey, therefore, it was not possible to make such arrangement as are normally made for such gatherings held at the central secretariat of Minhaj-ul-Quran International. In such gatherings, people are deputed to stop followers from kissing his feet strictly. If the video clip is reviewed by shunning all prejudice and partiality, it would become certain that one person is deputed there to prevent the followers from kissing his feet but when the person coming in did not find anyone on the other side, he took that way to be able to kiss his feet whom Shaykh-ul-Islam kept stopping strictly. 6. Therefore, it is not right for any Muslim to advertise and propagate anything without scrutiny and exact knowledge of facts. This is what the Holy Quran and the Sunna preach and is only the demand of the faith. So far as the kalam (poetry) being sung in the Mahfil Samma` is concerned, there is a message of Oneness of Allah (monotheism) in the poetry; based on mysticism and spiritualism. This kalam dedicated to Allah Almighty and the misuse of such kalam of excellence and highest order to establish one’s heinous and misplaced viewpoint is nothing but a sign of ignorance and out and out wretchedness. We have so far clarified that Shaykh-ul-Islam neither liked the act of kissing his hands and feet nor ever encouraged it, leave alone falling in prostration before him. In his speeches and books, he has always dubbed the act of prostration for worship (sajda ibada) as polytheism (shirk) and prostration out of veneration (sajda tazim) for someone other than Allah as forbidden (haram). Two of his books namely Kitab at-Tawhid and Tazim and Ibada could be consulted in this regard along with his numerous lectures and speeches. But a question arises here whether the act of kissing feet could be taken to mean prostration? Is kissing of feet an act of polytheism (shirk)? What are Islamic teachings about it? It is important to note as what would be the view of Islamic law if someone kissed the feet in peculiar circumstances? Given here below are some Prophetic traditions on the subject: 1. It is reported by Zari` ibn Aamir who came to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) along with delegation of Abul Qays: لَمَّا قَدِمْنَا الْمَدِيْنَةَ فَجَعَلْنَا نَتَبَادَرُ مِنْ رَوَاحِلِنَا، فَنُقَبِّلُ يَدَ رَسُولِ اﷲِصلي الله عليه وآله وسلم وَرِجْلَهُ. “When we came to the holy city of Madina, we jumped down from riding animals and began to kiss the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him).” This hadith is related by Imam Abu Dawud in as-Sunan (vol. 4, p. 357 # 5225). Moreover Imam Bayhaqi also narrated this in as-Sunan al-Kubra (vol. 7, p. 102) and Imam Tabarani in two of his books: al-Mujam al-Kabir (vol. 5, p. 275 # 5313); and al-Mujam al-Awsat (vol. 1, p. 133 # 418). 2. Imam Bukhari has devoted a chapter on kissing the feet al-Adab al-Mufrad. He has reported the same Hadith mentioned above from Wazi` ibn Aamir in the following words on page number 339 and hadith number 975. He reports: قَدِمْنَا فَقِيْلَ: ذَاکَ رَسُوْلُ اﷲِ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم. فَأَخَذْنَا بِيَدَيْهِ وَرِجْلَيْهِ نُقَبِّلُهَا. “We came to Madina, (we) were told: That was the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). So we enveloped the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and began to kiss them.” These words denote particular meaning. Narrator says that they did not merely content themselves with holding the blessed hands, rather kept on kissing the blessed feet besides hands, though they were holding the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). 3. Imam Trimidhi has quoted Safwan bin Assal as reporting one hadith on the same subject. He says: some people of the Jewish nation came to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). They questioned him and gave declared evidence that he is the true Prophet of Allah: فَقَبَّلُوْا يَدَيْهِ وَرِجْلَيْهِ. وَقَالُوا: نَشْهَدُ أَنَّکَ نَبِيٌّ. “Then they kissed the blessed hands and feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and said: we bear witness that verily you are the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) of Allah.” This Hadith is narrated by Imam Nasai in as-Sunan (vol. 7, p. 111 # 4078); Ibn Maja, as-Sunan (vol. 2, p. 1221 # 3705); Tirmidhi in as-Sunan (vol. 5, pp. 77, 305 # 2733, 3144), Ahmad ibn Hanbal in al-Musnad (vol. 4, pp. 239, 240), Hakim in al-Mustadrak (vol. 1, p. 52 # 20), Tayalisi in al-Musnad (p. 160 # 1164); and Maqdisi in al-Ahadith al-Mukhtara (vol. 8, p. 29 # 18). Despite the narration of this Hadith by a number of authentic hadith-narrators and using it as evidence, only a biased person could regard it as an act of the Jews and how we can give it the status of necessary evidence. What else can be said about this kind of thinking except expression of regret that the objector noticed the act of the Jew but did not see the blessed personality with whom it was being done? The Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) did not forbid the Jews to kiss his feet, it may well be regarded as silent Sunna (Sunna taqriri). 4. Highly respected student of Imam Ibn Taimiyya, Ibn Kathir, writes while narrating an incident in the interpretation of verse no 101 of Sura al-Maida that the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) got annoyed over something: فَقَامَ إِلَيْهِ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ رضي الله عنه فَقَبَّلَ رِجْلَهُ وَقَالَ: يَا رَسُوْلَ اﷲِ، رَضِيْنَا بِاﷲِ رَبًّا وَبِکَ نَبِيًّا وَبِالإِْسْلَامِ دِيْنًا وَبِالْقُرْآنِ إِمَامًا فَاعْفُ عَنَّا عَفَا اﷲُ عَنْکَ فَلَمْ يَزَلْ بِهِ حَتَّي رَضِيَ. “Then Umar (may Allah be well pleased with him) stood up and he kissed the blessed feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and said: O Prophet of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him)! We are pleased with Allah being Sustainer, your being the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him), Islam being Din and the Holy Quran being guide and leader. Forgive us. Allah would further be pleased with you. So Umar (may Allah be well pleased with him) kept on saying so till he (blessings and peace be upon him) became pleased.” Other interpreters have also stated the above-mentioned same tradition while interpreting the relevant verse. Now the question arises here whether the act of kissing the blessed feet of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) by such a respected Companion of the stature of Umar (may Allah be well pleased with him) and the Prophet’s act of not stopping him from doing so constituted the violation of the concept of Oneness of Allah (God forbid). 5. Imam Muqri (d. 381 AH) quotes Burayda (may Allah be well pleased with him) as reporting in his Book Taqbil al-Yad (p. 64 # 5) that once a Bedouin came to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). He said: I have embraced Islam but I want more so that my faith should be strengthened. Then the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) allowed him and a tree came to the Bedouin on his call and the tree said: O Prophet of Allah, peace be upon you. There is a long tradition that follows it. The Bedouin saw all of these signs and said: يا رسول الله! أئذن لي أن أقبل رأسك ورجلك. “O Prophet of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him)! Allow me to kiss your blessed forehead and blessed feat.” The tradition states that the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) gave permission to that Bedouin. Then he requested for falling in prostration, the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) did not allow him. Ibn Hajar Asqalani has narrated the same hadith reported by Imam Muqri in Fath al-Bari (vol. 11, p. 57). Furthermore, Allama Mubarak Puri has also quoted the same tradition in Tuhfa al-Ahwadhi (vol. 7, p. 437). This tradition very clearly states that the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) permitted the kissing of his blessed feet but did not allow prostration before him. Had the kissing of feet and falling in prostration meant one and the same thing, he (blessings and peace be upon him) would never have allowed this at all. Did the Holy Prophet’s act of being silent and not stopping the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) from doing that not mean permission from him? Does that act of the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) not fall in the category of Sunna Taqriri? If the kissing of the feed is an act of prostration, were the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) prostrating themselves then? (God forbid) the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) who was raised as a Prophet to spread the message of Oneness of Allah and eliminate polytheism, allowed the act of polytheism? Would that those objecting to the kissing of feet had studied something! A question can come up in the mind of the people that the kissing of feet was an act exclusive to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). We dilate here below as what is the reality of kissing of feet of non-Prophets, saints, religious scholars and spiritual directors? It is an undeniable reality that extending respect to the religious scholars and saints is what Islam requires with reference to the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and his Din. Interpreting their respect as polytheism is falsehood and being prejudiced with them is the sign of hypocrisy. The readers of the books of the Prophetic traditions know this reality that kissing the feet of the elders has been the usual practice of people of love and reverence. A few examples and precedents are being put forward here: 1. Suhayb (may Allah be well pleased with him) was the slave of Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him). He states: رَأَيْتُ عَلِيًّا يُقَبِّلُ يَدَ الْعَبَّاسِ وَرِجْلَيْهِ وَيَقُوْلُ: يَا عَمِّ ارْضَ عَنِّي. “I saw Ali (may Allah be well pleased with him) kissing the hands and feet of Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him) and he would keep saying this: O my Uncle! Become pleased with me.” It is narrated by Imam Bukhari in al-Adab al-Mufrad (p. 339 # 976); Dhahabi, Siyar Alam an-Nubala (vol. 2, p. 94); Mizzi, Tahdhib al-Kamal (vol. 13, p. 240 # 2905); and Muqri in Taqbil al-Yad (p. 76 # 15). 2. Imam Bukhari, a consensus traditionists of every school of thought and bright star of kingdom of knowledge, has devoted an entire chapter (number 444) on the kissing of hands in his book al-Adab al-Mufrad. He has narrated three Prophetic traditions on the ‘kissing of hands.’ It is manifestly clear that what it means is that the Companions used to kiss the hands of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and the way the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them) used to kiss the hands of the Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him), in the same way, Successors (tabi`in) would also kiss the hands of the Companions (may Allah be well pleased with them). While referring to these hadith, Imam Bukhari is throwing light on the manners of life that it was the way of the elders that they used to kiss the hands of the Shaykshs and religious scholars. Given the importance of the act, Imam Bukhari specified a separate chapter on the subject. This is not merely this. The chapter that follows Imam Bukhari has devoted to the ‘kissing of feet.’ By arranging these chapters in the book of manners, Imam Bukhari has clarified that he regarded the act of kissing hands and feet as manners of life. Had he considered these acts as denoting prostration or polytheism, he would neither have devoted separate chapters nor narrated Hadith on them. 3. When Imam Bukhari came to the city of Nishapur, a city of Imam Muslim, the most authentic hadith narrator of the Muslim world after Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim came to see him. It is reported in all the books based on the life stories of the Imams that Imam Muslim kissed the forehead of Imam Bukhari and then requested his permission: دعني حتي أقبّل رجليک، يا أستاذ الأستاذين وسيد المحدّثين وطبيب الحديث في علله. “O teacher of teachers, master of traditionists and grand scholar on hadith weaknesses, allow me to kiss your feet.” It is also narrated by Ibn Nuqta in at-Taqyid li Marifa Ruwat as-Sunan wal-Masanid (vol. 1, p. 33); Dhahabi, Siyar Alam an-Nubala (vol. 12, p. 432, 436); Nawawi, Tahdhib al-Asma wal-Lughat (vol. 1, p. 88); Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Muqaddima Fath al-Bari (p. 488); and Nawab Siddiq Hasan Qanooji in al-Hitta fi Dhikr as-Sihah as-Sitta (p. 339). 4. Allama Shirwani Shafi`i writes in Hawashi (vol. 4, p. 84) قد تقرّر أنه يسنّ تقبيل يد الصالح بل ورجله. “It has been established through research that kissing the hands and feet of the saintly person is an act of Sunna of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him).” 5. Abu al-Ula Abd ar-Rahman ibn Abd ar-Rahim Mubarakpuri, a respected scholar belonging to Deoband schools of thought and interpreter of Jami` at-Tirmidhi, has a distinguished position in the science of Hadith. He has listed all the above-mentioned Prophetic traditions on the kissing of hands and feet as evidence on page no 437 of the seventh volume of Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi. This clearly gives us an idea of his ways and practices. Likewise many traditions and instances could be quoted as reference but only a few have been quoted, which establishes the fact that kissing the hands and feet of saints and elders is a rightful and favourite act. The people of mysticism and spiritualism are convinced that the kissing of feet is not a normal act and those doing so do it out of love and devotion. Therefore there is nothing wrong with doing so for someone who is an established authority of knowledge and the Imam of the time. Therefore we should be very discreet while churning out Fatwas (religious edicts) and should do so only after studying the Holy Quran, Sunna, and acts of Companions and saints that too after getting rid of our biases and partiality. We should not project things without research and studies because the Holy Quran forbids to do so without proper investigation. The Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) has also condemned such an attitude. Allah Almighty says in verse number 6 of Surah al-Hujurat: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا. “O believers! If some (wicked) person brings you any news, inquire thoroughly in its truth.” Allah Almighty has ordained the believers in this verse to fully investigate the matters before forming their opinions on any matter. The purpose of doing so is to sift fact from fiction. They only take concrete step once they have been satisfied of the veracity of the matter. Referring to that, the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) said: کَفٰي بِالْمَرْءِ کَذِبًا اَنْ يُحَدِّثَ بِکُلِّ مَا سَمِعَ. “It is sufficient for somebody to be a liar that he conveys every hearsay (without inquiring into its reality) to others.” Reported by Imam Muslim in as-Sahih (vol. 1, p. 10 # 5). The believers are being asked not to believe in the hearsay and fully investigate the matters from all angles before passing it on to others. They should only convey when the truth of the matter has been established because passing on such things without proper inquiry is like telling lie. There are many hadith on this that the believer could be all but not a liar. So only such a person can ignore the above mentioned arguments as has chosen to close his eyes to reality and plugged his ears against the truth. Clearly, the perpetrators are seeking shelter for their weak beliefs and have practically admitted their defeat knowledge-wise. May Allah Almighty protect us from such ignorance! May He open our eyes and ears to the true teachings of the Qur`an and Hadith! (Amin) Source: Removed.. |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Kia yeh link ka source.. Allah ka quran say ziyda acha hay...... Kiya yeh un sab baton ka answer hay jo pechay pochi gai hay? this is just copy and paste... Yeh mehfile sama kia cheez hay?/ Kia kabhi Nabi SAW nay bhi Koi aisay darbar laga ay thay?? Sahaba karam ko aisa dance karwaya tha? jaisay is Video clip main kar rahay hain? Kia quran pak main aisa kucha aya kay kay Mehfale sama say sawab hota hay? Agar aya hay tu koi Ayat qouet karo.. |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Have you read the reply in 2mins? There are many many references to Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) which says kissing hands and feet is allowed. You can go to the library and look it up in the Hadith books. |
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Ankhain phaar phaar ka images tu daikho.. konsa kissing ho raha hay... http://bzupages.com/attachments/1046...8-untitled.jpghttp://bzupages.com/attachments/1047...-untitled1.jpg Jab kay Wo loog saaf saaf keh rahay hain.. 1) Jahan Jahan nazar aye tu "Tahir" karain hm "Sajda" 2) Kaaba ho ya boott khana iss sy nahi koi matlab 3) Peenay ko tu pee loonga per shart zara si ha ......baghdad ka saqi ho or Minhaj ka maay khana 4) Bey-Dam teri qismat mein hain sajday issi daar k, choota ha na chootay ga "sangay-dare-jana" Tu phir aap kiyon is baat ko ghalat tasleem karnay ki koshish kar rahay ho kay yeh aisa nahi hay? Kissing wo sawab hay tu Alama sahab ko bhi chahi ay tha na kay wo bhi Logon kay Paon chomtay na.. then unhon nay kiyon nahi choomay paon? Kia yeh hadees un kay li ay nahi thei? Agar yeh Video theek hay tu aap loog complains kiyon kar rahay hain kay yeh videos delete karwai ja ay...? youtube say delete karwai.. etc sab site say delete karwai.. jab hadees aur quran main hei yeh Quote:
sab aur... Mehflain lagana tu aap ko tension kis baat ki hay? |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! Inhain aqal nahi. Meray apnay cousin hain Extremist, wo meray samnay sajda kartay hain Qabron per. mainay un say pucha yeh kia kar rahay ho To kehtay hain AQIDAT our yeh sajda nahi hai """"SAJDA US WAQT HOTA HAI JAB TAMAM POINTS PURAY HOON JAISAY NAAK LAGAY ETC"""" Banda puchay 1 to yeh sajda hai and dusray maan lo agar nahi hai To dakhnay wala to yahi samjay ga keh sajda hai our Islam ka kia impression paray .................... Thanks for video. Allah in logo to samaj ata farmai. |
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! حضرت معاذ (رضی اللہ عنہ) ملک شام گئے۔ وہاں انہوں نے دیکھا کہ شامی لوگ اپنے بڑوں کو سجدہ کرتے ہیں۔ جب معاذ (رضی اللہ عنہ) لوٹے تو انہوں نے رسول اللہ (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) کو سجدہ کیا۔ آپ (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) نے پوچھا : معاذ ، یہ کیا بات ہے ؟ معاذ (رضی اللہ عنہ) نے جواب دیا : میں نے اہلِ شام کو دیکھا کہ وہ اپنے بڑوں اور بزرگوں کو سجدہ کرتے ہیں تو آپ (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) اس کے سب سے زیادہ مستحق ہیں۔ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا : اگرمیں کسی کو اللہ تعالی کے علاوہ کسی اورکے لیے سجدہ کرنے کاحکم دیتا توعورت کوحکم دیتا کہ وہ اپنے خاوند کوسجدہ کرے ۔ اس ذات کی قسم جس کے ہاتھ میں محمد ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) کی جان ہے جب تک عورت اپنے خاوند کے حق ادا نہیں کرتی وہ اس وقت تک اپنے رب کے حقوق بھی ادا نہیں کرسکتی ، اوراگرخاون د اس سے اس کا نفس مانگے (یعنی خواہشِ جماع) اوروہ کجاوہ ( اونٹ کی کاٹھی ) پر ہو تو اسے نہیں روکنا چاہیے ۔ ابن ماجہ
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Here is a short clip taken from a talk by shaikh Murtaza Khan on the deviant sect of the barelvis. I have uploaded it especially for all those people who praise this clown. | |||||
Re: Tahir Ul Qadri Sajda karvaate huay ! how sweet he said... @ 3:20 duration These people pohunch gayen.. Allah day koool hahha:sobstory: |
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